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Post by NewYorkDoll on Apr 8, 2008 13:35:03 GMT
Ok, so in a while I have to undertake an independent media study which focuses on anything we enjoy. The title must allow an essay which shows techniqe and understanding of media.
I have chosen to work on 'This Is England', I have to make my own essay title so I was wondering if you tell me your opinions on this title.
'Explore how Shane Meadow’s ‘This Is England’ deals with both historical and contemporary political struggle in Britain.'
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Post by Bill Edwards on Apr 8, 2008 18:56:06 GMT
Does what it sez on the tin?
Not that clued up on the etiquette of essay titles but would
'How Shane Meadows’s This Is England deals with both the historical and the contemporary political struggles in Britain.'
suggest that that's what you're going to do rather than appearing to ask the reader to do their own exploration?
I might be missing the point though!
I've taken the liberty to do some correcting (Meadows's) and suggesting (in green)! ;D
All the best with it!
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Post by carolyn on Apr 8, 2008 19:56:37 GMT
I may be wrong but I thought that it was an apostrophe after an "s" on a word such Meadows or Charles etc to show possession. I thought it would have been "Meadows' "This is England"".
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Post by jill on Apr 8, 2008 21:16:28 GMT
Good question Morrissey07. TIE is Shane's most explicitly political film. Would suggest you start by having another look at Shane's South Bank Show programme (it's on the site somewhere). If memory serves, he was asked about his choice of This IS England, as opposed to This WAS England title and he had some interesting things to say about contemporary relevance/resonance. The historical dimension sort of writes itself doesn't it? All the Falklands nationalism stuff versus the class politics in the miners strike. You should read up on all of that depressing Tebbit 'cricket test' rhetoric from the 80s. I don't think you'd have too much of a problem identifying the contemporary 'targets'-now it's explicitly the 'bogeyman' of Islam that threatens the 'nation' and, increasingly, Poles that are being constructed as a 'threat' to white working class jobs. Shouldn't worry too much about grammatical errors-if your essay's good, your tutors will likely ignore them. Good luck with it!
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Post by anonlytwin on Apr 9, 2008 17:40:19 GMT
Does what it sez on the tin? Not that clued up on the etiquette of essay titles but would 'How Shane Meadows’s This Is England deals with both the historical and the contemporary political struggles in Britain.'suggest that that's what you're going to do rather than appearing to ask the reader to do their own exploration? I might be missing the point though! I've taken the liberty to do some correcting (Meadows's) and suggesting (in green)! ;D All the best with it! i don't concur
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Post by anonlytwin on Apr 9, 2008 17:45:03 GMT
but yup morrissey07, thats a really pertinent question.... be careful when writing the essay not to be too proscriptive.. i.e. avoid saying 'this is what it does' and instead try simply too suggest that 'this is maybe what it does' or 'it could be argued that this is what it does' etc.
good luck mate
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Post by Bill Edwards on Apr 9, 2008 19:03:52 GMT
Okeedokee. I may be wrong but I thought that it was an apostrophe after an "s" on a word such Meadows or Charles etc to show possession. I thought it would have been "Meadows' "This is England"". I'm never sure myself but I last saw it in The Indy on Saturday as – Meadows's – and they ought to know. There's some arcane rule about the sound of the 's'. If it's soft then it's s's. If it's hard then it's s'. Summat like that... Lynn Truss'll know.
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Post by NewYorkDoll on Apr 11, 2008 18:35:47 GMT
Cheers for the ideas. Sorry about my grammar...shall definately correct it. Hoping for good results (fingers crossed).
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Post by carolyn on Apr 11, 2008 19:11:21 GMT
Sorry if I was wrong with the apostrophe and the "s". I just thought that I'd seen it that way but if it's been printed in another way that could be right. Anyway, as Jill said I don't suppose it really matters anyway.
Carolyn x
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Post by Bill Edwards on Apr 16, 2008 21:45:52 GMT
STOP PRESS!
Just looked at the back of my HMV Exclusive TIE DVD and the review extracted from The Observer sez...
"Meadows' best film yet. This is brilliant"
His possessive apostrophe has it both ways!
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Post by carolyn on Apr 16, 2008 21:53:29 GMT
Maybe he's not gay at all. Maybe he swings both ways.
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Post by eyepennies on Jun 27, 2008 2:41:22 GMT
Ok, so in a while I have to undertake an independent media study which focuses on anything we enjoy. The title must allow an essay which shows techniqe and understanding of media. I have chosen to work on 'This Is England', I have to make my own essay title so I was wondering if you tell me your opinions on this title. 'Explore how Shane Meadow’s ‘This Is England’ deals with both historical and contemporary political struggle in Britain.' call it.... 'Its grim up north' An explorative study into the film "This is England" and its portrayl of political struggle.
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Post by ayleshamboy on Jun 27, 2008 18:52:50 GMT
how about "You asked for it - or how the working class lost the war, but hardly anybody noticed". Bitter and twisted? - I bl**dy hope so! Good luck with t'essay - just use stick 'post-' in front of enough long words. Always worked for me. We'll dance on her grave..
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Post by ayleshamboy on Jun 30, 2008 13:18:06 GMT
how about "You asked for it - or how the working class lost the war, but hardly anybody noticed". Bitter and twisted? - I bl**dy hope so! Good luck with t'essay - just use stick 'post-' in front of enough long words. Always worked for me. We'll dance on her grave.. I must apologise for the poor grammar above. I think it has something to do with recent TV programmes. It appears that they are airbrushing history again, telling us some story of a wonderful woman, and all her achievements. Now I understand a little more about the manipulation of truth, and the making of legends. Those of us who were really there need to set the record straight.
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Post by RydCook on Jul 10, 2008 14:28:07 GMT
STOP PRESS! Just looked at the back of my HMV Exclusive TIE DVD and the review extracted from The Observer sez... "Meadows' best film yet. This is brilliant" His possessive apostrophe has it both ways! I've always put Meadows' as well as all the other names ending in S. I just think charlies's Looks messy! I swear i read somewhere that it doesn't really matter either way. Anyway, we all know Meadow's is just wrong. Cos otherwise his name'd be Shane Meadow.
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