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Post by neil2445 on Mar 23, 2008 15:42:29 GMT
Hey Thribb; I see you are a senior member; do you fancy having a look at this thing and telling Dave I'm not a cock? It's full of disturbing social commentary life- risking war photos and has even got a few pics of The Ilson in it. email neil24842445@hotmail.co.uk if you want a meet. It'd take an hour to look at. Somewhere quiet, like the back of the Observatory.
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Post by PatrickCoyle on Mar 23, 2008 16:32:38 GMT
...Or an alley with no cameras.
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Post by salvador on Mar 23, 2008 17:36:14 GMT
email neil24842445@hotmail.co.uk if you want a meet. It'd take an hour to look at. Somewhere quiet, like the back of the Observatory. This sounds dodgy as anything |
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Post by Dave on Mar 23, 2008 18:25:36 GMT
Hey Thribb; I see you are a senior member; do you fancy having a look at this thing and telling Dave I'm not a cock? It's full of disturbing social commentary life- risking war photos and has even got a few pics of The Ilson in it. email neil24842445@hotmail.co.uk if you want a meet. It'd take an hour to look at. Somewhere quiet, like the back of the Observatory. I haven't presumed cock! ;D I'm just not sure how Shane is connected to the subject matter of your photography... other than This Is England had some Falklands back story. |
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Post by neil2445 on Mar 23, 2008 20:28:52 GMT
Dave, about time matey. It's half war, half social commentary. Hard to explain, but the same gritty realism Shane explores; Glasgow unemployment, Manchester poverty, blight of drugs on communities, London riots, the lack of opportunity in the East Mids. Been to some real bad places. Let me see if this Ilkeston guy Thribb is up for a meet and let him convince you. He's unbiased.
The Observatory is a Wetherspoons up Ilkeston, the rest of you guys. Or you make a suggestion, T.
Neil
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Post by Tom on Mar 23, 2008 22:14:31 GMT
Dave, about time matey. It's half war, half social commentary. Hard to explain, but the same gritty realism Shane explores; Glasgow unemployment, Manchester poverty, blight of drugs on communities, London riots, the lack of opportunity in the East Mids. Been to some real bad places. Let me see if this Ilkeston guy Thribb is up for a meet and let him convince you. He's unbiased. The Observatory is a Wetherspoons up Ilkeston, the rest of you guys. Or you make a suggestion, T. Neil Okay, so I have a question here... Are these your own photograph's or a collection of other's work? And are you trying to get them published or simply displayed? Massively confused by the relevance here. |
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Post by Lord Thribb of Hubris OBE on Mar 23, 2008 22:20:34 GMT
I also think that a bit more clarification is needed.
I'm certainly not being dismissive, but your initial approach was unusual.
I'm not really clear what you actually want and it's relevance to this forum.
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Post by jody on Mar 23, 2008 22:33:41 GMT
Could you not scan in some of your work, maybe a few examples and post them up here, that way you'll allow all of us to have a look without anyone having to meet you in a dark elusive place! I’m sure that all of us on here would be willing and interested to take a look at an online gallery of some type and give you our honest opinion dude!
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Post by Dave on Mar 23, 2008 22:39:03 GMT
....also, I don't doubt your sincerity at all. It's just I can't help you in any way, shape or form.
I genuinely don't have a hot-line to captain Meadows.
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Post by jim woolley on Mar 23, 2008 23:48:57 GMT
Neil what are you referring to in 'The Ilson' - I'm interested being local to where you're talking of.
I don't think you need to start a thread asking if someone is gay to get Shane's attention though. Isn't that more likely to put him off responding, like?
Just a thought, anyway.
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Post by neil2445 on Mar 24, 2008 9:01:35 GMT
Okay, here goes guys. Tom; they're all my own photos and my intention is to get them displayed in art galleries and museums. James, the Ilson is Ilkeston and The Observatory is a pub next to the museum there, Thribb; I want Shane to sit down for a quiet hour and look at the work, and to do that I'm prepared to be vetted by you and Dave (okay Dave - no hotline. But you'll still have clout with Shane).
All I'm after is a blurb quote; a short summary of the work. You see them all the time on posters, DVD and book covers etc. It'll give added weight while I'm apporaching the above venues because it's been knocked back a lot - too political and emotive.
It's an art method I've never seen before but I'll have a go. The work itself is in two A3 display books, a page of text and a caption wrapped round a relevent scene and the photojournalism photo proper. This is one of the forty scenes...
Main photo: Facing the smashed up McDonalds in May Day 2000 riot, riot police a few feet to my right in full clobber, rioters a few feet to my left.
Caption photo (text wrapped around an intentionally blurred close up of part of the red and yellow sign. Copyright reasons):
‘Have we said hello to the policeman, children?’
Ronald McDonald at Tower Gardens Play Scheme Centre,
Tottenham, August 23, 1996. Ronald was
invited to the annual ‘Fun Day.’
‘McDonald’s founder, Ray Kroc, believed that ‘A company only has the right to operate in a community when it is prepared to contribute to it.’
So in every country where we do business, we strive to make a valuable contribution at both a national and local level…
So all our franchisees are encouraged to ‘put something back’ by involving themselves and their staff as much as possible in local events, schools, community groups and organisations and to raise funds for local charities.’
McDonald’s Franchising
(brochure for potential franchisees)
‘It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from regard to their own interest. We address ourselves not to their humanity but their self-love.’
Wealth of Nations (1776) book 1, chapter 2
Scottish philosopher and economist Adam Smith
‘We sold them a dream and then paid them as little as possible.’
Ray Kroc, founder of the McDonald’s empire.
Outside the damaged London McDonald’s restaurant
during the May Day 2000 anti-capitalist riot
ends. So I'm squaring the opposing sides up and rubbishing the toss-pots. All the way through. Hitler, Thatcher, Kroc, Ian Paisley, Martin McGuinness, Murdoch, New Labour all get a lashing. The headings are Introduction, Germany, Bosnia, Belfast, Glasgow, England. Subjects include war, poverty, drugs, the inequity in education spending (Twice as much in Kensington on primary kids than in Nottingham and Derby), media distortion (The Sun's treatment of the Hillsborough disaster) and media drivel (The Mirror's front page treatment of a pre-nup contract with Catherine Zeta Jones. Front page news a few years ago.)
And so on. John Pilger (check him out on the net; he was the guy who exposed what was going off in Cambodia) blurbed this: 'Neil Jackson has brought together important photographic evidence of truths that are subversive, because they illuminate the other side of mainstream media propaganda.'
In short it's subversive, has an East Midlands finale, and I'd like Shane to see it so he either tells me to take a hike or gives me a blurb quote. So that's me, boys. I live in Risley, junction 25 of the M1. Anyone can take a look if after they'll vouch for me (if they like it) , but I'm not prepared to drive far. Here's some folk who will vouch for me, - museums (Remind them of 'Conflict' exhibition by Neil Jackson) : Julie Biddlecombe, curator of Westbury Manor Museum, 01329 824895, Erewash (Ilkeston) 0115 9071141 Stephen Flinders. Buxton museum; Manager Ros Westwood 01298 24658. Detective Chief Inspector Kev Buttery; number withheld. Kev can phone you after blocking his number.
Thanks for reading. I'll try and upload some pics now.
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Post by neil2445 on Mar 24, 2008 9:03:47 GMT
![]() [/img]. Okay, I've got the insert image button and all that comes up is the previous (img)(/img). |
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Post by Chewbaxter on Mar 24, 2008 9:12:08 GMT
....also, I don't doubt your sincerity at all. It's just I can't help you in any way, shape or form. I genuinely don't have a hot-line to captain Meadows. Now that's a pity - because I'm just re-editing me "Shane - PLEASE watch this" vid and uploading... I was hoping you'd give him a bell. "Hallo?"
"Hey Shane... Chewbaxter's re-edited his vid - it's now under 5 mins. dude!"
"Sh*t - I nearly missed out there feller - I've just had 'ceefax' on and there was no mention of that! I'll hotfoot it staight over and take a look now! Cheers"And so forth. You see... I have a great imagination - helps keeps me balanced!  N. |
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Post by salvador on Mar 24, 2008 9:18:56 GMT
(okay Dave - no hotline. But you'll still have clout with Shane). Dave can you ask Shane if I can work on his next film? Just use your clout |
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Post by Chewbaxter on Mar 24, 2008 9:32:09 GMT
Dave can you ask Shane if I can work on his next film? Just use your clout I deplore violence... all this clouting! Mind you... if it works - I've getten a baseball bat (although don't understand the game) - I'll let it ye if it helps with the 'clouting' - careful though - it's heavy! N. |
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