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Post by Dave on Jun 21, 2011 19:01:46 GMT
Hello Bakema
Sadly, the Dead Man's Shoes graphic novel is really hard to find these days. I bought one as soon as it was released, so I'm a happy owner of one copy signed by the artist Anjan Sarkar!
The graphic novel has a few changes in the story. I think this was because it was written based on an early version of the script.
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Post by Bakema on Jun 21, 2011 22:45:24 GMT
Hmmmz, ok, a tough one to find...bummer. But one day I'll run into it, always happens. When I'm on the lookout for something I'm sure I will find it. It can take years, but there's a copy for me somewhere.  |
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Post by johnner on Dec 20, 2011 23:42:41 GMT
Dead man's is the kind of movie you watch and then feel the urge to show it to as many people as possible.
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Post by jellybean on Dec 20, 2011 23:57:02 GMT
hi Locksley.
For me DMS is so believable - and that's why i think it has an edge. I just KNOW that shit happens. I always remember my dad finding the Godfather scary...in particular..the horses head scene. As a kid, i thought it was no more gory than Jaws and couldn't work out why it would frighten him. His answer was that the Godfather world was real and that those types of activities were not the world of fiction.
That for me, is the same quality DMS has. Its like lifting the lid on the life we are so used to seeing fictionalised. TIIE has the same quality...but there is a bit of pantomine and comedy thrown in there to make it more palatable in places. Obviously, i am not talking about scenes with Johnny Harris...but its much lighter generally.
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Post by gapinuk on Oct 15, 2012 14:45:19 GMT
i havent seen either of the films in the second question either, although lots of good stuff about both. i tend to watch french films when i'm not watching british films. The thing that DMS does to me is this... it's real, as a boy growing up with a single mum life was a bit of a struggle in the 80's. she met this bloke whom was tall, charming, looked fricking loaded and had several cars etc... 6 months later we moved in... it was turbulent to say the least, he would often clout my mum for sod all, and sometimes in front of me.. his friends, all reminded of each character in that film.. my mum was cast into a world unknown... anyway a few months later i was leaving for school and just as i went to open the front door, it was smashed down.. several armed cops (sweeney style) smashed their way in and grabbed him... he was a bank robber! the next 5 years mum was left with me and his kids.. both of which were a pain in the arse (no surorises really) into drugs and their little gang, they used to pick on a mate of mine whom was a little like richard, vulnerable beyond anyone imagination... few years later he came out of prison and i walked in from school and saw my mums blood all over the place, she was laying on the floor half naked and beaten into something i can't describe.. ear hanging off, nose all smashed up, eyes hidden behind swollen cheekbones, broken fingers etc... this was his thank you for looking after my kids, the next day we were homeless and shipped off to some hostel miles away from anywhere or anyone i knew... i wanted revenge naturally... so going back to your question, when my wife said there is a film on later you might like... i was glued, it was like everything in that film was out of my head...  i am working on a writing this shit out and seeing where it takes me, obviously there is alot more to the years i experienced, and instead of going of the rails a teenager, i looked out for mum... got a job, paid her bills, did everything i could to make her smile |
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Post by jill on Oct 15, 2012 16:01:08 GMT
What a story. Sounds like you turned out to be a decent bloke despite all this. Hope your mum's doing OK these days.
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Post by gapinuk on Oct 15, 2012 18:01:30 GMT
What a story. Sounds like you turned out to be a decent bloke despite all this. Hope your mum's doing OK these days. thank you Jill.. yeah i turned out okay, the average human i guess mum died at home when i was 22, nursed her all the way.. then went into a career of nursing, gave that up yonks ago now. do lots of community work etc... and in between that penning my story. everytime i watch dead mans shoes, something inside me is inspired to get it finished.. thus far i have created the characters, mannerism's, background, habits and stuff.. mostly from memory, some from researching it. its not jst a case of sitting down and writing. even more reason to respect the man Meadows |
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Post by jill on Oct 15, 2012 18:52:27 GMT
I'm sorry to hear that-must have been really hard for you. I hope you manage to get your story down on paper. For what it's worth, I think the best writing is that which breaks the boundaries-meaning the boundaries we all construct to protect ourselves from things that are painful.
I know what you mean about relating to Shane's films (I think everybody on the forum does). There something about that kind of relating to a film that runs deep-beyond the formulaic conventions of the genre (e.g. 'social realism') and that can't be aped-though many people/film-makers try. For me, there's something in DMS (the vigilante aspect) that is disturbing, but it's also 'raw' and real, which I respect. It 'strikes a chord'-sounds easy, but is as far from 'easy' as you can get.
Edit: Did you watch the This is England TV series? Lol's story? If not, you should find it out. All best.
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Post by gapinuk on Oct 15, 2012 19:17:56 GMT
yeah i did watch both the film and the two series that were aired, i also own them on dvd as for the writing, i will be using my experiences in a way that will break all social barriers, from the darkest of thoughts to the darkest of actions... it will make raw look tame hehe... seriusly though it's going to be very raw and graphic. with a great story. |
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Post by iandavies87 on Oct 25, 2013 10:15:00 GMT
Dead man's shoes is my favourite film of all time it's simply a work of genius and if it was a novel it would be more widely recognised as so.
To the first question.
very true that it is just a feeling that you get watching the film. I think it strikes a chord with people because it is so realistic. Everyone has either been bullied, knows of bullying, understands a brothers love or even known someone like Anthony.
The reason the film gets to me is that Anthony is in a lot of ways so like my younger brother who is autistic. I've never cried at a film but watching this I was close.
This amazing writing and directing driven by two utterly incredible performances by paddy and Toby make us part of the film when we watch it.
Dead man's shoes is a price of art and how many movies could you say that about.
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Post by Dave on Oct 27, 2013 14:36:38 GMT
Hey Ian, welcome to the site.
Great to read some more thoughts on this old topic.
I haven't watched Dead Man's Shoes for an absolute age now. Feels like I need a refresher viewing!
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Post by jas on Nov 13, 2013 20:42:42 GMT
Dead man's is the kind of movie you watch and then feel the urge to show it to as many people as possible. SO so so so true!!! I've lent my DVD to just about everyone I know |
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Post by arnoldrimmer on Aug 19, 2015 22:04:51 GMT
Hi Everybody Firstly, let me say a big hello to you all as it's my first thread, and also let me say that Dead Man's Shoes is my favourite film of all time. Everything about this film is totally unbelievable. The setting, the story, the characters, the acting, the atmosphere and last, but definitely not least, the brilliant music, make it THE perfect film for me. I was told about DMS by Gary Stretch's mum. She mentioned that he was playing this gangster (her words, not mine) in a british film and it was called Dead man something or other, so naturally, I forgot all about it. However, when i was flicking through the sky channels one night, the scene with Richard in the gas mask banging on the door was on, and it had me hooked. I watched it, and it left me with a feeling I've never felt after watching a film. Shock, awe... I don't know what it was, but it made me go out the next day and hunt the film down. I now own 2 copies on DVD, the soundtrack (Both CD format AND bought on itunes!) and my lovely wife got me the Blu ray for Xmas!!!! I also own a copy of the limited print Comic book that I would LOVE to have signed by cast members. Well, back to my thread title. Question1: I would love to know what people think makes this film so bloody good? I have all Shane's work on DVD, and I love Romeo Brass and This is England, but Dead Man's Shoes seems to have a certain "something" that those don't!!! Does anyone agree? Just exactly what is the "it" that DMS has? Question 2: My other 2 favourite films are The Orphanage and Pan's Labyrinth. Those films are totally stunning pieces of cinema, and the Orphanage in particular is the only film that reduced me to tears at the end. Both are spanish, and both involve Guilermo Del Toro in some shape or form. What I want to know is, has anyone on this forum (Shane in particular) saw these films and if so, what did they think of them? Cheers |
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Post by arnoldrimmer on Aug 19, 2015 22:12:00 GMT
Hi Locksley, for me its got to be a combination of Paddy Considine and a good dark revenge story.
I think Paddy makes a few of Shanes films and I couldn't see anyone else playing the part with as good an outcome.
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i am working on a writing this shit out and seeing where it takes me, obviously there is alot more to the years i experienced, and instead of going of the rails a teenager, i looked out for mum... got a job, paid her bills, did everything i could to make her smile 
