When Did You First Notice Shane?

[fattaxi]

Cleopatra....coming at ya

[Mandy]

patrickcoyle said:

Yeah, that dictionary doesn't know what it's on about. It makes out we have a language!

Have you ever wondered why the dictionary has to be updated at regular intervals? Our language is rich and it changes. It always has and it always will. You are not the first person to moan and groan about the meanings of words evolving and you certainly won't be the last, but the language YOU use has been moaned about in the past. Not long ago, the present usage of the word "hopefully" was seen as a sign of a loose grip on the English language on the part of the speaker, but that usage is now widely accepted. The use of the word "legend" in the sense you object to has gained COMMON USAGE, and as such it is being used correctly. Besides, my Longman dictionary (a paper one, not the internet) includes the definition "broadly famous" under the word "legendary". We cannot correctly call you a pedant; you are stating an irritation with unnecessary over-use of a word, but your call on the definition is wrong!

By the way, I do understand your irritation with certain words being over-used in popular cuture. My own pet hate is the current use of the word "awesome".

Did you know that English has a bigger vocabulary than any other language on the planet? So don't panic; despite people's need to be unneccesarily repetitive, our language is as rich as you need it to be. The very joy of language is its ability to evolve; it is the basis of linguistic creativity.

[Mandy]

Now, if you could just get started on the subject of missing and misplaced apostrophes, I would be right there with you on the moaning front...

[RydCook]

nice one mandy you are so very correct, you may dislike me though as I do use the word awesome from time to time lol. and patrickcoyle, you mentioned a midget suicide death in the background in the wizard of oz? i've never heard anything about this.. tell me more... i'm intruigued (can't spell, please don't wrote an essay about it)

did i miss out or missplace any apostophe's mandy? i thought i was good at that! (that was a joke i know the plural of apostrophe is without an apostrophe lol) ooh the irony!

i think this thread should go back to the topic of how people got into meadows' (<thats right apostrophe use yeah?) work, and be less of an english lesson, agreed?

[RydCook]

credit to these particular comments in this thread:

jtrodreigez:
"how about the word jumped up cock sniffer with dolphin teeth."

patrickcoyle:
"Even if he is a smarmy orange bastard."

fattaxi:
"Cleopatra....coming at ya"

you make me laugh

[PatrickCoyle]

mandy said:

Now, if you could just get started on the subject of missing and misplaced apostrophes, I would be right there with you on the moaning front...

Oh, dont even get me st'arted on that!

Other words students and studenty types overuse:

Immense! (means "good" or "excited", I think... It certainly doesn't mean "immense")
Quality! (same as above, though the actual word's meaning is closer in this case)
Mental! (I can't decipher this one at all... I think it's a generic word that has literally no singular meaning. "Last night was mental!" means "Last night I drank alcohol, look at me, look at me! Aren't I a legend?")

There are many more. "Cool" used to bother me but I have grudgingly accepted it. Oh well. Idiocy is progression, it seems.

[PatrickCoyle]

The Wizard of Oz thing is an urban legend, apparently in the background of one of the scenes a midget hangs himself or jumps off something to his certain doom. It's bullshit, though.

[fattaxi]

Yeah shame though because you can see something hanging!

Ahwell.... interesting fact of the day ... Toto was paid more then the munchkins.

Si
xx

[PatrickCoyle]

fattaxi said:

Ahwell.... interesting fact of the day ... Toto was paid more then the munchkins.

But he probably pissed it all away on whores and chewtoys, whereas the munchkins invested wisely and didn't have to work ever again.

Well, until Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, anyway.

[Bruce Campbell]

Hi Shane ... see if you can guess who I am ...

I first met you at ada chadwick, Burton Tech in about 1990 .. I was doing ground course in art and design and you were part of the drama course with Elly Valentine ... remember her? ..it was later demolished .. we all used to joke that it was because Jean Dutton's office was on that side of the building and she was such a bloater...

I used to knock about with 'Wank' ... Andrew Bagnall (last time I saw him, he owned a furniture workshop or something similar .. it's too long ago)

One day, the three of us went for a toke at the nearby church and you decided it would be a laugh to tell the vicar who suddenly arrived that you admired the "rusticated basement".

You used to like playing practical jokes on your Dad .. you told me that once you stuffed his hand in his zipper when he was asleep so when you're other relatives arrived, it'd look like he'd been playing with himself in his sleep. You also stuck glitter on his head when he was asleep once, so when he got to the truck stop, ate his breakfast and only then went to the bathroom for a wash, he'd realise he'd looked like a plonker to all the other eating truckers.. I saw your Dead Man's Shoes recently and I suppose that's where you got the slepping make-up attack thing from?

You were once entrusted in charge of some new arrival students, so you dressed up as a lecturer (tweed jacket etc) and convinced them to all perform some stupid warm up exercises while the real lecturer was away.

You took it a step further and went on the local bus, pretending to be an old bloke ..

You once played Ashby country club in your old band She Talks To Angels ....

This is perhaps a giveaway ...

I bumped into you playing pool in The Crown in Burton a few years later and when I asked you how you were, you laughed and said something like "actually, I'm doing really well ... I've just been given a 3 million budget to make a film (24-7) .. I can get you a job if you want? ... even if it's just sweeping up or something". Because of the above pranks mentioned, I thought you were just blagging it for a laugh so I said no thanks ..

No disrespect .... I think your films are well made but they're still not my thing to be honest ... but I'm proud of you anyway Shane. Nice one.

[jessikins]

My first Shane experience was Room for Romeo Brass when it played at bath film festival a few years back. Was too young to be watching it but was allowed to sneak in because my dad sponsered some film at the festival or something. Thought it was amazing! But being a young child I soon got distracted by other friviolous delights and forgot about dear shane. That is until Dead Mans Shoes. Then the obsession was refuelled and have since spent many late nights at film school having heated debates about why he is the saviour of British cinema. Well, I say heated debates. Everyone agrees with me so far....And if the word Al desko (meaning to eat at ones desk) is in the dictionary I don't think it can really be trusted. Pegg is a legend and a leg end as is Meadows. Because I say so. What more do you need to know?

[Coyle]

Which of them is MOST foot-like?

[RydCook]

Coyle said:

Which of them is MOST foot-like?

ha ha i get it, a foot is at the end of a leg.. leg-end.. ha ha ;D

[Coyle]

If I could make a flash cartoon about two feet calling each other "leg ends", I would.

[stiffy]

I once bought four DVD's to watch about 3-4 years ago, a cheech and chong, Chopper Read, Jay & Silent Bob, and Gallipoli....but I didn't have a DVD player, had to buy one, still haven't seen all them movies. Then I was in Indo and picked up about 30 pirate DVD's for real cheap. have only seen about 4 of them.

Which leads me to 2 weeks ago, went to the latin film festival here in Melb australia, had got wind of a new movie from Sergio Machado, whom made City of God and Motor Cycle Diaries...the new movie - cidade baixa (lower city), yeah, damn good. hit the spot.
So I figure that City of God, that has gotta be one of the best films I have ever seen. Used to work in a one horse cinema (Lake Cinema Boolaroo) in a one horse suburb (Boolaroo) of the one horse town Newcastle (Australia again) for many years. And I love my movies, so I figure I gotta get my hands on this DVD....and low and behold I got some email back from some shite thing I had tapped into and one of the sponsors was YouCanGetDVD'sFromUs or some other shite buy DVD's off our website thing....so me with the track record of watching DVD's decides he is gonna get himself this DVD......a little search later and bingo, found it. Decent price, now lets shop around, this movie is popping up everywhere, got the ideal shipping conditions and Purchased.

Too easy.

Now, hang on a minute, there was once a film that was before City of God and after Bad Boy Bubby as my best ever film. And I had done quite a few searches for this film before, and came up empty handed.

Back in the middle of 97 I jumped on that horse at the one horse cinema in the one horse suburb of the one horse town, and rode it all the way to Melbourne. The big smoke, a new beginning, and soon after arriving I discover a "Melbourne International Film Festival".....hang on a minute, whats this, loads of films, and I can buy a pass to see as many as I want....ok, I am in.
So not only is there films, there is short films before the feature...just like they used to show before the feature films back in the day. So I took myself along to quite a few.

So I swear there was one called "Small Time" and it was the best ever. And for years since, travelling through 50+ countries, over many a beer, I have told so many people how this movie "Small Time" was the best. But not one person had ever heard about it. Even worked in Birmingham England for seven months, spent 3 years running at the Edinburgh festival, but had never chased it down or come across it.
So with this small win on "City of God", I start my search again, try all my new found aussie DVD suppliers online....nothing.....but now armed with a thing called Google, a new improved search engine, I go after it, nothing....try harder...nothing....right, find me the list of films that were played at the 1997 Melbourne International Film Festival....getting closer, have found all the award winning films....no Small Time....no complete listing....try harder....1998, 2000, but no complete listing of 97...where are you?....and then a big you bewdy cobber, found it. Small Time - Director Shane Meadows.
Now find me that film......search the world.....searching searching.....none in stock.....on VHS...but none in stock.....amazon etc have the used - but I want new, and then I see shanemeadows.proboards39.com in the google search, which brings me to here. And now it turns out I have a whole lot of other Shane Meadows movies that I am yet to watch, and judging by the praise, the "BEST" is yet to come, just like the women in my life.
And the success rate on both is a little sketchy......surf first, beer second, women and DVD's later.

Stiffy

PS. that trail of SM is going to release the Small Time DVD with all the extras, then no he's not, someone else is releasing it, and then no, nobody is releasing it......someone just get that thing out to the world, the only reason why tens of thousands of copies are not being shifted.....is because they aren't on the shelf yet? every one wants the real deal, tell me whom has the rights, I will buy it and sell the the thing!