cudas
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Post by cudas on Sept 3, 2008 14:27:04 GMT
saw 'Eden Lake' today. Was really looking forward to as I'd heard it was a nicely nasty British horror, not to mention the first non-Meadows movie featuring T.Turgoose. Well, all I can say is that, having appeared in perhaps the best British film of the year, Tomo is also in very probably the worst. It's nasty, yes, but not in a good way. Not in a good way at all. And Tomo, despite a prominent billing in the opening credits, is very much a background, minor supporting character who gets hardly any lines and has hardly anything to do (apart from one brief scene which I can't really describe as it would be too much of a 'spoiler'.) The only positive thing I can think of to say about the film is that Jack McConnell O'Connell [sorry!!] ('Puke' from 'This Is England') turns in a strong performance as a teenage psycho. Finn Atkins (from 'Once Upon a Time in the Midlands') is also in it but, like Tomo, she's stuck in a nothing of a role. My advice: go and see 'Somers Town' again rather than waste your money on this garbage. www.jigsawlounge.co.uk/film/content/view/865/1/ |
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Post by Dave on Sept 3, 2008 14:36:00 GMT
I saw the trailer for this and it looked too blatantly sick for me... and for little reason (although not having seen the film, I can't say if that is correct or not).
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Post by Kezz on Sept 3, 2008 14:36:06 GMT
Well my advice is go and see tomo and finn in a supporting role..
So because they arn't the leading performers we shouldn't respect there work??
Jack alone would be worth going to see.. he's finally on the up and getting the attenton he so deserves.. he's also the main character in the all new 'skins'.
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cudas
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Post by cudas on Sept 3, 2008 17:00:00 GMT
I'm all for "respecting" supporting performers as you put it, but this respect should also be displayed by the filmmakers themselves. If you cast talented actors in your film such as Tomo and Finn, I think you have some kind of duty to give them enough to do to make their efforts worthwhile.
I can see that, for Tomo (I've only met him the once, hope I'm not being overfamiliar!) this will have been a very useful element of his education as an actor (working with different people either side of the camera; working in a totally different genre). And of course I'm sure the fee will have come in handy.
But this isn't enough for me to be able to recommend this particular film to anyone. I would much rather the film did badly than well, and Tomo's involvement is so minor that in no way will such a "flop" reflect badly on him (especially with 'Somers Town' doing quite nicely). I don't dole out one-out-of-ten ratings lightly but I think the film deserves it.
'Mum & Dad' is a superficially similar picture (low-budget Brit horror with social-issue elements) but is many times better. And it provides Perry Benson with a really smashing chance to show the range of his talents. His performance is really superb in that film, and I really do hope that it gets a release. To say the very least, it is much more deserving of distribution than the reprehensible, irresponsible mess that is 'Eden Lake'.
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Post by Dave on Sept 3, 2008 17:07:00 GMT
Reprehensible and irresponsible?
Oh dear, I thought that words such as those might rear their heads regarding this film. Definitely not for me this one.
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Post by Kezz on Sept 3, 2008 17:12:16 GMT
ok thats valid i guess.. lol, im not going to retaliate for the sake.
I just didnt want their work to be overshaddowed i guess.. but i take ur point.
p.s. I'm probably just overly bitter as I auditioned for both 'Eden Lake' and 'Mum and Dad'. lol !
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Post by jim woolley on Sept 3, 2008 19:33:41 GMT
Should this be in 'Anything Else'? You can't bill it as Tomo's new film if he's not in it much really is it? Sounds like you were hoping he'd feature prominently and that he didn't let you down.
I was interested in Mum and Dad as well as this but then negative commments on IMDb put me off.
How can a film be nasty in a good way though?
I'll wager that Eden Lake might actually do quite well...
I'd like to read a lengthier review of what you found problematic with the film. From what I can tell you seem to take offence at its Jeremy Kyle aspects - exploting the less fortunate members of society or demonising them...
The film actually got quite a good review in Sight and Sound so we'll have to see. I'm always sceptical about reviews from the press in general.
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cudas
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Post by cudas on Sept 3, 2008 23:24:10 GMT
Should this be in 'Anything Else'? You can't bill it as Tomo's new film if he's not in it much really is it?
:: OK, fair cop. Wasn't sure -where- to put this strand, but in the end reckoned I should put it in the most "prominent" location.
Sounds like you were hoping he'd feature prominently and that he didn't let you down.
:: Whatever's wrong with the movie is emphatically not Tomo's fault.
I was interested in Mum and Dad as well as this but then negative commments on IMDb put me off.
:: It's nothing amazing, but is very much worth a look if you get the chance. I saw it at Edinburgh Film Festival (Mark Devenport, a talented and scandalously underused actor [check out 'One For the Road' from a few years back] happens to have brief appearances in both EL and M&D. And if you like Perry Benson, you HAVE to see it.
How can a film be nasty in a good way though?
:: Loads of films USE their nastiness for good ends: social commentary (most obviously, Romero's original 1969 'Night of the Living Dead') or just to give us a jolly good scare.
I'll wager that Eden Lake might actually do quite well...
:: I hope not, and suspect it will find its audience mainly on DVD.
I'd like to read a lengthier review of what you found problematic with the film. From what I can tell you seem to take offence at its Jeremy Kyle aspects - exploting the less fortunate members of society or demonising them...
:: Basically yes. I'll write a proper review for Jigsaw Lounge within the next couple days.
The film actually got quite a good review in Sight and Sound so we'll have to see. I'm always sceptical about reviews from the press in general
:: I'm honestly surprised and disappointed that S+S didn't trash the movie. Different strokes, I suppose.
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Post by salvador on Sept 4, 2008 14:18:43 GMT
I'm gonna go see it.
Its funny the critics seem to be all over the place with it. Total film gave it 1 star, Empire gave it 4 and Sight and Sound gave it a very good review.
It will be interesting to see what is making people see it so differently
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Post by jim woolley on Sept 4, 2008 16:27:26 GMT
I think Dave's taking a moral stance leaving this here but rather than stop people going to see it this will most likely make them intrigued. I'm going to go and see it. If its got two stars from This is England in it and one from Once upon a time in the Midlands (a weirdly likeable film even though some see it as a mis-step-I don't myself) can't be that bad.
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Post by Dave on Sept 4, 2008 17:32:42 GMT
I think Dave's taking a moral stance leaving this here but rather than stop people going to see it this will most likely make them intrigued. I'm going to go and see it. If its got two stars from This is England in it and one from Once upon a time in the Midlands (a weirdly likeable film even though some see it as a mis-step-I don't myself) can't be that bad. Not at all. No morals being displayed at all, it's just that from what I've heard and seen, I don't want to see it. I didn't think it was something so far removed from Mr Meadows that it was worth moving this thread. I think it should be something more than ANYTHING ELSE... perhaps the This Is England thread (or Somers Town). I reckon TIE has the biggest connection to Tomo. Thoughts? |
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Post by jim woolley on Sept 4, 2008 18:38:31 GMT
Dave, wasn't trying to nit-pick and there's nothing bad about some moral judgement. Actually, leave it here I'd say, maybe its an interesting enough area of discussion even if the film turns out to be poor. Even if its a ropey thriller/horror, Turgoose, Atkins and McConnell are in a film that will probably be discussed in University courses in the future.
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Post by johartley on Sept 4, 2008 21:24:31 GMT
O'Connel... Jack O'Connell... thats his name. Im sure its not Tommo's film.  Thats not fair. Im sure its just a new film that Tomo is in and Finn and Jack. Its brave to take risks when your young, you just go to work do what you do, what yr told to do, i thought it looked ok the trailer... ill decide... xx |
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cudas
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Post by cudas on Sept 4, 2008 22:53:06 GMT
Jo - thanks for pointing out my careless error re Jack's name (which I have now gone back into my original post and corrected). Jack McConnell is of course Scotland's former First Minister... who I don't think has worked with Shane (yet!).
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Post by johartley on Sept 5, 2008 12:46:54 GMT
No worries cudas, i got confused myself when i read it, as i was sure it is O'Connell.
I cant find Eden Lake - where is it on and when is it out?
I went for a part in it but never made it through. Im gonna try to watch it. Off to see Rock n Rolla in a minute, cant wait....
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Thats not fair.