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Post by RydCook on Oct 30, 2007 0:38:15 GMT
I want to shoot a film in the public, where i'd like to have a lot of the public's reactions. I suppose i gotta do release forms or something for this don't i? Or is there another way around it?
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Post by halfpint on Oct 30, 2007 1:16:03 GMT
Depends on exactly where you're filming....generally filming in public spots you've got total freedom.....markets, parks, town centres...and anyone involved in shots here is fine.
It's only if you're actually interviewing or require them for dialogue that you'll need release forms, people in the background reacting is honkey dorey.
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Post by Gareth on Oct 30, 2007 4:04:02 GMT
I always thought you had to do release forms if you show the persons face?
you definatly have to get signed release forms for non speaking parts as well as speaking ones,
depends what your idea is??? would it be that hard just to blagg them to sign a release form? say it's for TV or something, or just say you were filming an establishing shot and you might have caught the back of their head, just blagg them into signing it just to be on the safe side
If you've got permission to be on the location I think you can put up a disclamer up saying 'you will be filmed' or whatever but I assume you won't be getting permission
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Post by halfpint on Oct 30, 2007 12:49:27 GMT
I think it depends if they're background reactions or if you're focusing on specific people in the crowd.
You can't go wrong if you put disclaimers up, I've filmed in public areas tons of times and never had a problem.
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Post by PatrickCoyle on Oct 30, 2007 14:38:40 GMT
Filming people in public In the UK, generally speaking, you are allowed to film in a public place without permission, including the people in that location. You don’t need a release form/permission to film people on the street or passers-by as long as your camera is not concealed. If you are shooting in a public space where it is likely that strangers might appear in your shots, you could consider putting up signs that say: "By entering this space, you are granting permission for your likeness to be included in the project "__(YOUR PROJECT NAME)__" made by "__(YOUR GROUP NAME)__" There are, however, some restrictions which you need to be sensitive to; you will need release forms for people who are identifiable in sensitive places, even if they are not speaking (e.g. hospital waiting rooms, gay clubs, law court corridors). www.ourvideo.org/toolkit/files/chapter6-1-1.htm This site has a fair whack of info.
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Post by RydCook on Oct 30, 2007 16:44:26 GMT
Basically it'll be in the middle of the street, nowhere that i'd need permission. And it pretty much is background reactions i'm looking for, but i'm hoping for a separate camera to zoom in on certain people reactions. and the way i'm shooting... it wont be possible to ask each and everyone of them to sign a release form. I might just go with the signs, is that absolutely necessary?
Thanks for all the help guys.
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Post by Patty Dawes on Oct 30, 2007 16:52:33 GMT
I shot an advert in a street, it was a very wide shot but I'm sure if you needed to get a release they would have (and they didn't nor did they have signs) because it was such a big budget. So i'm a 100% sure you will be fine.
good luck with people stopping you every 2 minutes though to ask what your filming.
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Post by RydCook on Oct 30, 2007 16:57:10 GMT
I shot an advert in a street, it was a very wide shot but I'm sure if you needed to get a release they would have (and they didn't nor did they have signs) because it was such a big budget. So i'm a 100% sure you will be fine. good luck with people stopping you every 2 minutes though to ask what your filming. Awesome cheers. Yeah i'm aware that might happen! Somehow don't thin it will be too much of a problem.... Anyway i remember two chavs wanting to do a music video when i was shooting in stafford, ha ha, one of them rapping to the camera! brilliant. I just held on to the camera, as much as i could ha ha.
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Post by RichK on Oct 31, 2007 20:00:14 GMT
Ok, well, I think you'll be ok with what you're doing. For both a big BBC drama and a little Channel 4 promo filming in public spaces, we made signs saying something like.. "Filming in progress for -----project name-----, there is a chance you may be filmed, if this causes you any difficulty please speak with a member of our production team." And actually, to film in the street you do sometimes need permission. In fact in certain parts of London it will cost you!! Although to be honest, for what you're doing, just go for it. The charging in London is actually being debated too, because, well, the councils argue you're on their property (the highway) so should pay, but it's a liberty thing I guess. On the bigger jobs I do its easier just to pay for what you want and maintain good relations with the councils. On the smaller projects, I just avoid the boroughs that charge.
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Post by RichK on Oct 31, 2007 20:01:42 GMT
Additional to above though, be cautious about filming inside shopping centres. These guys are a completely different kettle of fish and advance permission would definitely be required.
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Post by RichK on Oct 31, 2007 20:03:02 GMT
Oh yeah, and for anyone you might like to interview etc, its acceptable for them to give a verbal release on camera. You just film them saying their name and address and confriming that they are happy to be filmed. Not ideal, but very nice and easy.
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Post by RydCook on Oct 31, 2007 21:32:50 GMT
Cheers Rich mate! Yeah i've had experience with filming in shopping centres before.. they're gits. I wont be in one for this shoot though!
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Post by Dave on Oct 31, 2007 22:29:58 GMT
People's reactions....
.... don't tell me you are working for Balls of Steel?! ;D
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Post by RydCook on Oct 31, 2007 22:36:22 GMT
no...
Although i do like balls of steel! ha ha admittedly some of it is bollocks, but some of it is very funny. I do like a bit of stupid comedy every now and then.
anyway its nother like balls of steel. It may be a complete disaster.
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Post by halfpint on Nov 1, 2007 10:29:13 GMT
One thing about scallys/chavs aswell....i've found if they're hanging around and could potentially be a problem, just film them for a minute or so, get them involved, say something to the camera etc. and then tell them 'that's great, we'll definately use it' and they'll be chuffed and think they're gonna be on TV, and should leave you alone.
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