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Post by defnorthern on Mar 28, 2007 1:45:00 GMT
This should be regarded as an educational film for young people in an historical / political / sociological context.
For it to be regarded as an 18+ by censors is outrageous, and will only push issues that are as relevant now, as in 1983 underground. This cannot be healthy.
Kids are talking about this film - eg, some Muslim kids brought it into the youth club I manage (thinking they were realtime 2007 NF clips), and white kids in another centre agreeing with the sentiments of 'combo' - who's issues clearly need 'unpacking' ;-)
This film and the baggage it contains might feel old to the rubik cube / space invader kids of the Thatcher era, but are real to the teenagers of today. yes, still.
I'm very much a 'noob' regarding this film, but I hope that the age limit can be brought down in terms of who can legally view it, as I feel that it is an important piece of work, particularly in relation to community cohesion and anti racist work with young people. Much educational value.
From a youth work / educational perspective, the film is extremely useful - it provides a (all be it white) term of reference for exploring concepts of identity, race, youth, family, war, politics, - particularly in a white male working class context. - a context and persepective which is often overlooked.
Set in balance with the current perception of Islam / young muslims which is more than often (mis)represented, I feel the potential exists for some serious and hard hitting work with young people.
certainly made me think anyway,
nice film / piece of work, salutations.
M
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Post by Dave on Mar 28, 2007 10:37:43 GMT
I'm pretty sure that Shane had hoped that he could show the film to 15 year old kids to highlight all the issues of bullying and racism.
I think the film would have a real impact too. Most kids of that age will never have seen a film that looks and feels so real, so I'm sure it will make a powerful connection with them.
In Bristol we have got the certificate changed by the local council to a 15 certificate. Hopefully this may have a knock-on effect and encourage other councils to follow suit.
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Post by GADGE! on Mar 28, 2007 10:50:53 GMT
YEAH AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE I AGREE WITH THIS , BEING 16 I KNOW MANY MANY MANY PEOPLE WHO WOULD SEE THIS FILM AND IT WOULD MOST CERTAINLY CHANGE THEIR OPINIONS ON PEOPLE AND LIFE IN GENERAL (FOR A GOOD REASON). FIGHT THE POWER! GADGE!
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Post by samedifference on Mar 29, 2007 23:47:04 GMT
I agree with all the above but I would say try not to get too downhearted because people in our field, doing work on racism and violence, will use it. At the Slough showing there were some young people there from a local school that a teacher was concerned about (with regards to their attitudes towards young people from other backgrounds). It's harder to use because of the cert but by no means impossible. Also, is there any chance that the rating will drop when it comes out on dvd?- I know that's happened for other films but can't think of any examples off the top of my head.
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Post by Dave on Mar 30, 2007 0:21:41 GMT
Also, is there any chance that the rating will drop when it comes out on dvd?- I know that's happened for other films but can't think of any examples off the top of my head. Surely it's usually the other way round, if at all. A certificate will be higher on DVD if it is changed because of the re-watch and pause abilities available to the viewer. This used to happen alot when the 12 certificate first appeared (on Batman). When a 12 film came out on video, it would become a 15, simply because the 12 cert only applied to cinema exhibition at the time.
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