one of the best films i've ever seen
May 3, 2007 16:16:13 GMT
Post by judecalverttoulmin on May 3, 2007 16:16:13 GMT
hi, i'm a noob and i can't find a generic thread to write reactions to the film so i hope it's ok if i put my thoughts on here.
i've just been to see TIE at the showroom in sheffield and it was absolutely fookin brilliant. i only saw dead man's shoes last week on vid so am new to shane meadows' films, but imo he's one of the most gifted directors i've ever seen.
i love the fact that so much stuff was shot hand held, and i thought the slow mo sections were superb - when the gals were all walking towards the camera looking well 'ard, and when everyone walked past the red corrugated panel fencing in slow mo - that was superb.
i also love the really big close ups during combo and shaun's dialogue, and again, the BCU's during combo and lol's dialogue, worked really well i thought.
i was overwhelmed by the pathos in the film, and the love and empathy for humanity that came through, and yet the social dynamics of the group were delineated very precisely, in the same kind of squirmworthy fashion as in dead man's shoes.
i've seen the kind of dynamic illustrated in TIE happening on forums, where you get a bully invading an otherwise harmonic group, and then the bully picks off the strongest first, by publically ridiculing them and accusing them of being weak, as combo does with woody. and, amazingly, most of the peer group sit back and do nothing, through fear...it's a very tense situation with a bad taste which has been illustrated brilliantly in TIE...and then the bully is left surrounded by the weakest and most vulnerable members of the group - notably shaun (strong but impressionable and vulnerable), gadget and meggy.
i also loved the scenes between smelly and shaun, which were unbelievably touching. blimee, i used to DREAM of boys uttering lines like "i'm not embarrassed. i think you're lovely" when i was a teenager! (they never did, LOL!) - i thought rosamund hanson's performance was brilliant, and i've been over to the imdb boards to tell her as well cause she's got a thread going on there and she should be credited on the imdb listing.
performance wise, obviously stephen graham turned in a seamless performance in what was a challenging role, and i thought vicky mclure shone as well. actually, all the performances were brilliant so it's unfair to single out any one, but this is only one opinion after all - i was really struck by frank harper's performance as lenny, the national front leader, and not knowing who he was i wasn't surprised to subsequently discover that he's an old pro, LOL
same with perry benson as meggy. both performances really stood out for being so understated, something you can only get with a lot of acting experience (see the work of robert duvall who is the guru of understated acting. mind you, paddy considine isn't doing badly on that score, LOL!)
thomas turgoose was fantastic, absolutely brilliant. the scenes with rosamund hanson were riveting for their authenticity, but all his work in the film was faultless, imho.
i really liked joseph gilgun's performance as woody, and andrew shim's as milky (another really understated performance i thought which worked brilliantly) - and andrew ellis as gadget, and george newton as banjo...oh god they were all just perfect really, all the performances. and of course, you can only get truly great performances with great directing and actors who trust their director.
my favourite line was gadget's: "what sort of pudding?"
priceless.
*SPOILER*
the most uncomfortable moment was when i realised that combo had not lured milky back in order to nick him from woody's gang, but had lured him back as a target in order to exorcise the hurt he was feeling over his rejection by lol....that moment when the tone in combo's voice changes, and he starts sweating, and you realise he's going to lose it and do something nasty to milky...brrrr...scary and very effective. i was thinking "oh no, duh, he's not being friendly, is he? he's gonna kill him! oh no!"
*SPOILER ENDS*
the soundtrack was great; that was my era really. i remember seeing the specials, madness and selector at newcastle city hall on the two tone tour and it was one of the best gigs i've ever been to.
i loved the erik satie-ish piano and cello (? i think) music, does anyone know who that was? and i thought clayhill's cover of please please please was awesome. the only way to do a cover is to take it, break it into pieces and then reassemble it your own way, and that's what they did and it worked, and i loved where that song was used in the film too, on the beach. perfect.
what a triumph, congrats to all the cast and crew, thankyou for such a wonderful experience and best wishes to all involved for the future
good forum btw
i've just been to see TIE at the showroom in sheffield and it was absolutely fookin brilliant. i only saw dead man's shoes last week on vid so am new to shane meadows' films, but imo he's one of the most gifted directors i've ever seen.
i love the fact that so much stuff was shot hand held, and i thought the slow mo sections were superb - when the gals were all walking towards the camera looking well 'ard, and when everyone walked past the red corrugated panel fencing in slow mo - that was superb.
i also love the really big close ups during combo and shaun's dialogue, and again, the BCU's during combo and lol's dialogue, worked really well i thought.
i was overwhelmed by the pathos in the film, and the love and empathy for humanity that came through, and yet the social dynamics of the group were delineated very precisely, in the same kind of squirmworthy fashion as in dead man's shoes.
i've seen the kind of dynamic illustrated in TIE happening on forums, where you get a bully invading an otherwise harmonic group, and then the bully picks off the strongest first, by publically ridiculing them and accusing them of being weak, as combo does with woody. and, amazingly, most of the peer group sit back and do nothing, through fear...it's a very tense situation with a bad taste which has been illustrated brilliantly in TIE...and then the bully is left surrounded by the weakest and most vulnerable members of the group - notably shaun (strong but impressionable and vulnerable), gadget and meggy.
i also loved the scenes between smelly and shaun, which were unbelievably touching. blimee, i used to DREAM of boys uttering lines like "i'm not embarrassed. i think you're lovely" when i was a teenager! (they never did, LOL!) - i thought rosamund hanson's performance was brilliant, and i've been over to the imdb boards to tell her as well cause she's got a thread going on there and she should be credited on the imdb listing.
performance wise, obviously stephen graham turned in a seamless performance in what was a challenging role, and i thought vicky mclure shone as well. actually, all the performances were brilliant so it's unfair to single out any one, but this is only one opinion after all - i was really struck by frank harper's performance as lenny, the national front leader, and not knowing who he was i wasn't surprised to subsequently discover that he's an old pro, LOL
same with perry benson as meggy. both performances really stood out for being so understated, something you can only get with a lot of acting experience (see the work of robert duvall who is the guru of understated acting. mind you, paddy considine isn't doing badly on that score, LOL!)thomas turgoose was fantastic, absolutely brilliant. the scenes with rosamund hanson were riveting for their authenticity, but all his work in the film was faultless, imho.
i really liked joseph gilgun's performance as woody, and andrew shim's as milky (another really understated performance i thought which worked brilliantly) - and andrew ellis as gadget, and george newton as banjo...oh god they were all just perfect really, all the performances. and of course, you can only get truly great performances with great directing and actors who trust their director.
my favourite line was gadget's: "what sort of pudding?"
priceless.
*SPOILER*
the most uncomfortable moment was when i realised that combo had not lured milky back in order to nick him from woody's gang, but had lured him back as a target in order to exorcise the hurt he was feeling over his rejection by lol....that moment when the tone in combo's voice changes, and he starts sweating, and you realise he's going to lose it and do something nasty to milky...brrrr...scary and very effective. i was thinking "oh no, duh, he's not being friendly, is he? he's gonna kill him! oh no!"
*SPOILER ENDS*
the soundtrack was great; that was my era really. i remember seeing the specials, madness and selector at newcastle city hall on the two tone tour and it was one of the best gigs i've ever been to.
i loved the erik satie-ish piano and cello (? i think) music, does anyone know who that was? and i thought clayhill's cover of please please please was awesome. the only way to do a cover is to take it, break it into pieces and then reassemble it your own way, and that's what they did and it worked, and i loved where that song was used in the film too, on the beach. perfect.
what a triumph, congrats to all the cast and crew, thankyou for such a wonderful experience and best wishes to all involved for the future
good forum btw
