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Post by jill on Aug 23, 2008 21:50:05 GMT
I was thinking maybe Tomo would get thrown out and that something really bad would happen to him back on the street. The ending was lovely-a few people have used 'warm' to describe the film and I completely agree. In a way, given the subject matter, a bad end for a kid on the street would have been an obvious way to go.......I guess this is why Shane's a fantastic film maker and I'm not PS. Was also thinking, it must be pretty unusual for a film this short to get a release in multiplexes?? Looks like post-TIE, Shane truly has arrived! Erm, I mean he's been highly regarded in the film world for over a decade, but arrived in the 'mainstream.' Oh, you know what I mean
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Post by marksherbert on Aug 24, 2008 9:50:03 GMT
I'm seeing it today!
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Post by billywizz on Aug 24, 2008 11:51:04 GMT
saw it on friday and enjoyed it muchly....like other people have said, shane's other films have always had that shock value moment which the film hinges on, so you're kind of waiting for it, and it's a relief when it doesn't happen.....but the relationships in the film are very well portrayed and you feel for all the characters....i really enjoyed the scenes with marek and his father - especially the one when they are reading the dear dierdre to each other....
the eurostar 'plugs' were a little more obvious than i thought they were going to be.....i don't think they detract from the film at all but i think i'd have enjoyed it more if i didn't know....for me somers town isn't in the same league as DMS or TIE - but what knocked me sideways was tomo's performance which really was amazing and my highlight of the film....so funny and so natural and so perfectly suited to the style of shane's films......for me his role in TIE was stunning for a kid of that age in his first film, his role in somers town is just stunning full stop.....
as for the last scene - surely it has to be a dream..?? for how does a lad who's run away from home get a passport...? or maybe tomo goes home, keeps in touch with marek and somehow traces maria in paris before arranging a trip over....? the only other gripe i have is when jane buys tomo that bacon butty and he leaves half of it - a hungry young lad would have woofed that down after a night on the streets nay bother.....
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Post by johartley on Aug 25, 2008 11:54:53 GMT
I agree this film is different from Shanes usual work but you can still tell massivly that it belongs to him. I think Its because its shorter and the story is simpler that this happens. Im so pleased it had a happy ending, i came out of the cinema feeling satisfied and happy. Buzzin.
One of my favourite bits was when Tomo stole the cloths and said 'oh, yeah ill just get these for my uncle Ian'! I was crying with laughter, nearly sick, as it was so randon. lol
I loved Marek and his Dad. The scene when he talks about the mum and says sorry to Marek is hertbreaking and i loved that he was not too angry and aggressive.
Marek is hilarious without knowing it and Tomo s performance is so laddish, he is so so natural its scary.
The script is great, some wicked conversations about Geoff Capes and stuff in the kitchen i thought that was classis writing and Perry Benson is a genious in it. Such a blagger, fab!
The scene when tomo wakes up hung over, you just know where he is... although i had a weird feeling, i wasnt sure what was gonna come from that??mmmmm, Could of gone dark with more time, glad it never. The Perry and Tommo friendship is hilarious. Tomo in a dress was top!!!! hahaha.
The french lady was stunning and really lit up the screen, i did want to see more but her leaving worked, as it made me feel sad. I really felt for the boys. I thought she was hot!
I really liked it and i think the lack of violence really suits shanes style, he has a way of marrying sweet slushy moments with such realistic comedy. Its never cheesy.
I think Somerstown is a breeze with moments of true honesty and friendship.
Well done everyone. Bring on the Branston!!!!!
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Post by Companero on Aug 26, 2008 9:51:32 GMT
I went to see this again yesterday. Thought it was just as good, second time around. Although I was anticipating some of the funnier scenes, it made them no less memorable or amusing. SOMERS TOWN is all about the characterization and dialogue, both of which are brilliant. It helps that both Tommo and the guy that play Marek are both particularly good actors too; it's such an effortlessly great film on every possible level.
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Post by Morell™ on Aug 26, 2008 12:56:10 GMT
A bit of an aside but did anyone hear Mark Kermode's review? He hilariously and repeatedly says. "Guy Ritchie's; Somers Town" and even 'Shane Ritchies; Somers Town" There is an official apology from Simon Mayo for the blunder. Kermode also supports the backing of the Eurostar funding and rubbishes the complaints that it is just product placement or a glorified advert.
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Post by deadmansrockports on Aug 26, 2008 12:58:56 GMT
Yeah I listened to that this morning, well funny.
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Post by Companero on Aug 26, 2008 13:04:03 GMT
A bit of an aside but did anyone hear Mark Kermode's review? He hilariously and repeatedly says. "Guy Ritchie's; Somers Town" and even 'Shane Ritchies; Somers Town" There is an official apology from Simon Mayo for the blunder. Kermode also supports the backing of the Eurostar funding and rubbishes the complaints that it is just product placement or a glorified advert. What a tit. Still, bodes nicely for a new series of 'The Shane Meadows Experience'.
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Post by Dave on Aug 26, 2008 15:44:59 GMT
A bit of an aside but did anyone hear Mark Kermode's review? He hilariously and repeatedly says. "Guy Ritchie's; Somers Town" and even 'Shane Ritchies; Somers Town" There is an official apology from Simon Mayo for the blunder. Kermode also supports the backing of the Eurostar funding and rubbishes the complaints that it is just product placement or a glorified advert. shanemeadows.proboards39.com/index.cgi?board=somers&action=display&thread=2863&page=2#49022 ;D Also, I agree with Jo... my favourite funny moment of the film was Tomo muttering about "Uncle Ian" and eventually just mumbling just "Ian" as he stole the clothes. All more in the vain effort to convince himself of the fake Uncle rather than any onlookers really!
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Post by johartley on Aug 27, 2008 13:25:44 GMT
lol... i picked up on that Dave,... it made me laugh really really loudly and nobody else laughed as much. Its such a classic line. He mumbles like he is well chuffed with the fact he has picked the name IAN, haha. 'Yeah... for my uncle Ian these are, yeah Ian..., Uncle Ian'!
I dont really agree that Tomo is better in this than in TIE. He is maturing into a very natural performer, he is strong and focused and he plays this differently/comically/honestly. He is very natural, but being older, his decisions and reactions are more varied. He seems more sure about his performance in this - he's comfortable.
I loved it.
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Post by johartley on Aug 27, 2008 19:47:55 GMT
...i hope that did not sound negative, i know everyone has different opinions but i just think its really different not better, its more developed. Its more character powerful, more personality in ST,.. rather than emotionally powerful like in TIE, if you know what im trying to say....He's like a grown up, well he is ...but in TIE he is innocent.
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Post by wheatabeat on Aug 28, 2008 8:42:48 GMT
I ended up seeing it in Ashton-Under-Lyne (Cineworld, about 4 people there. Philistines!).
Just in my humble like, but I thought the Polish kid just about stole it from Tomo for me. I just thought he was bloody brilliant, and played that role perfectly; injected with lots of humour. He was a joy to watch, not that Tomo wasn't of course.
It was beautifully shot too, with great backdrops whenever they were walking around together. Best scene for me was the mistaken 'sexual favour' crossed wires with Tomo and the cockney wheeler dealer bloke. It just restores your faith in humankind watching that.
Well done Shandy. A lovely watch.
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Post by RydCook on Aug 28, 2008 11:10:27 GMT
I saw it for the second time last night. Went with my parents, and some friends.
Expecting the funny moments I was, but I agree with Companero... it didn't make them any less funny. Some interesting points... only half the audience laughed at TERRY HENRY! I guess you gotta be a footie fan. Also, the Bashing The Bishop bit went down like a Lead Balloon! Couldn't believe it.
Favourite still has to be "Uncle Ian" Me and my friend couldn't stop quoting that. It's just the last "Ian" he adds in for effect. Hilarious. Also Graham, as well as just whenever he's on screen bit with the money, when he blows it! ha ha ha.
Was smiling from ear to ear from as soon as the two boys met. Agreed about Piotr his performance was excellent. Tomo and his natural comfortable performance and excellent improv: "I paint all sorts of things, flowers... cakes" Ha ha.
Noticed a couple of Camera shadows on this watch... first one when Tomo runs from the gang, on his back. Also one when the Father comes back. No biggy though, i guess it happens with the style that Shane uses. theres also one in TIE that gets to me a little bit! I kinda like spotting things like that in Shane's films... makes me feel like its okay to make tiny mistakes here and there. I also agree with Dave that Tomo should have wolfed down that bacon sarnie!
Still my favourite Meadows film to date. Love it.
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Post by Dave on Aug 28, 2008 13:27:45 GMT
Following on from Ryd's post above..... I have to say that for me, the bathroom wank scene was the one comedy moment I didn't really find that funny. Felt a bit like a quick cheap laugh which is at odds with the inventive banter and situations from which the comedy usually arises in Shane's films. Someone tell PaulBlackpool quick... I have mildly dissented! ;D I didn't mention the bacon sandwich.. I never noticed that... can't recall who it was now. Crazy how you keep noticing these camera shadows and reflections or whatever. Not seen any in this or TIE. Blummin' film-makers.. always looking at things from a technical angle too!
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Post by RydCook on Aug 28, 2008 14:47:33 GMT
Following on from Ryd's post above..... I have to say that for me, the bathroom wank scene was the one comedy moment I didn't really find that funny. Felt a bit like a quick cheap laugh which is at odds with the inventive banter and situations from which the comedy usually arises in Shane's films. Someone tell PaulBlackpool quick... I have mildly dissented! ;D I didn't mention the bacon sandwich.. I never noticed that... can't recall who it was now. Crazy how you keep noticing these camera shadows and reflections or whatever. Not seen any in this or TIE. Blummin' film-makers.. always looking at things from a technical angle too! I found the wanking bit less funny this time... either cos I was expecting it, or because the audience didn't find it funny. Amazing how much the audience your with can effect the comedy. I know someone mentioned it... sorry Dave! Ha ha. With the camera shadows i'm nitpicking a bit really. I highly doubt anyone else has noticed them. I apologise... cos you'll probably look out for them next time! Ha ha. It really doesn't detract from the film for me. I guess it is just cos i'm a filmmaker and I look into it too much. It always seems to happen at the long take, handheld camera scenes. Must be hard to cut them down, once they have such a good performance within them, if you understand me? The longer they are... the more realistic it is. It's a great shot when Tomo runs away, i'm glad they kept it in. I may even be wrong. The one in TIE is when Banjo hugs Combo and the camera comes close... if you wanna check it out. Ha ha. I wish I could watch films without thinking about this sort of thing. Curse of being a filmmaker!
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