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Post by fatself on Sept 16, 2007 13:57:14 GMT
He was quoted as having said ''If you work 9 to 5, than go home and watch Sky you may as well be a fucking drip''...
well, Shane, tell that to the plumber who fixes your leaky fawcet.
These people are intricle in maintaining the order of the world.
If everyone opted to be a little filmaker, than we would be up to our nips in shit.
Peeved at the comment.
That being said, I don't want to be an accountant.
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Post by Dave on Sept 16, 2007 14:48:44 GMT
We had a bit of banter over this before I think.... You left out 'on' from that quote. "You may as well be a fucking drip" isn't quite so strong! haha We can all see what he means, but yes, I agree that it's a bit strong! I was an accountant for 6 months of pure hell... and I didn't even have Sky!  |
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Post by jill on Sept 16, 2007 15:06:38 GMT
Judging by the last plumbing bill I received, the bloke who fixes my fawcet likely spends his weekends in the Caribbean....only joking. Even if you work 9 to 5, you don't have to spend the evening vegging in front of the telly. Shane has a point and I don't think he meant it as a put down of people who do regular jobs; it was in the context of a bit of a rant about apathy and malaise generally. Anyway Fatself, here's the thread Dave alluded to: shanemeadows.proboards39.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1182458087 |
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Post by fatself on Sept 16, 2007 15:57:55 GMT
yeah, but if you have just spent 9 hours of your day thumbing through statistics or stacking hamsters at a pet shop, your not going to decipher the works of Aldous Huxley or brush up on your knowledge of the Soviet agenda with Chekhov...you just wanna eat your Noodles and watch ''Ross Kemps Gangs'' on Sky One.
Hooray for vegetation!
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Post by jill on Sept 16, 2007 17:32:20 GMT
yeah, but if you have just spent 9 hours of your day thumbing through statistics or stacking hamsters at a pet shop, your not going to decipher the works of Aldous Huxley or brush up on your knowledge of the Soviet agenda with Chekhov? Why not? Seriously, I'm not having a go, I see where you're coming from and I agree with you that society's a collective effort and it takes all kinds of people in all kinds of jobs to make it work. But to me, there's nothing that says just because you happen to need to stack shelves to pay the rent, you can't be interested in Huxley or Chekhov or do something else that makes you think or allows you to be creative.........sorry, I don't buy it. I don't have a problem with people vegging now and again (and some TV's brilliant) but if that really is all you (general) do night after night, you really might just as well be on a drip. If that makes me a snob, so be it  |
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Post by PatrickCoyle on Sept 16, 2007 17:32:23 GMT
yeah, but if you have just spent 9 hours of your day thumbing through statistics or stacking hamsters at a pet shop, your not going to decipher the works of Aldous Huxley or brush up on your knowledge of the Soviet agenda with Chekhov...you just wanna eat your Noodles and watch ''Ross Kemps Gangs'' on Sky One. Hooray for vegetation! So you're confirming what Shane said, then. I don't quite see where you've taken issue with it, given what you've just said now. That quote of his is my favourite quote of the year from anyone so far. Was in a Guardian piece on TIE, if I recall. When I first read it, I thought FUCKING YES! But I didn't say that, as I was on a train. Nobody is forced to be a worker monkey-bee-robot who does some soulless, brainless, mundane bollocks all day and then comes home and sits staring at the idiot box until bed. Even if you do the dull job, you can still live and breathe outside of it. But it's the easier option to just sit down and put EastEnders on, and be nothing more than the numb cog in the machine. The sky box is a fucking drip for a lot of folk. |
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Post by fatself on Sept 16, 2007 18:18:49 GMT
yeah, but if you have just spent 9 hours of your day thumbing through statistics or stacking hamsters at a pet shop, your not going to decipher the works of Aldous Huxley or brush up on your knowledge of the Soviet agenda with Chekhov...you just wanna eat your Noodles and watch ''Ross Kemps Gangs'' on Sky One. Hooray for vegetation! So you're confirming what Shane said, then. I don't quite see where you've taken issue with it, given what you've just said now. That quote of his is my favourite quote of the year from anyone so far. Was in a Guardian piece on TIE, if I recall. When I first read it, I thought FUCKING YES! But I didn't say that, as I was on a train. Nobody is forced to be a worker monkey-bee-robot who does some soulless, brainless, mundane bollocks all day and then comes home and sits staring at the idiot box until bed. Even if you do the dull job, you can still live and breathe outside of it. But it's the easier option to just sit down and put EastEnders on, and be nothing more than the numb cog in the machine. The sky box is a fucking drip for a lot of folk. It is all just Guardianista creative horizoning. Fair enough, if your a jobsworth and your spare time is COMPLETELY dedicated to TV...you may as well be dead. Bare dead. BUT Shane seemed to imply that if you chose to embrace the mundanity of life, bollocks to you. well, fuck that! Jobbing takes up your life. Theres barely enough time to piss. WHY shouldn't people be content with sitting in after work? as for his quote being a ''Huzzah!'' for the cultivated, creative, aspiring minds, I just felt it was ill founded and poorly executed. Ain't a dampener on Shane. Still love his work. |
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Post by Dave on Sept 16, 2007 18:33:23 GMT
It is all just Guardianista creative horizoning. Fair enough, if your a jobsworth and your spare time is COMPLETELY dedicated to TV...you may as well be dead. Not if you love telly though! haha I just realised.... it was while I was literally turning into a zombie doing 6 months of accounts that I actually got on with making this website and putting it on the web! It was probably all that kept me from going insane. I'm convinced that that job was worse than being in prison... I don't see how prison could be worse. Luckily I didn't (and still don't) have Sky. Who watches TV anyway? It's shit!  |
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Post by PatrickCoyle on Sept 16, 2007 18:50:00 GMT
BUT Shane seemed to imply that if you chose to embrace the mundanity of life, bollocks to you. But he didn't say "bollocks to you". He said "you might as well be on a drip" - it's more literal than you're taking it to be. Do you not see the obvious comparison between lying sedate in a hospital bed day after day, and doing the same thing on your sofa in between spells of drudgery? |
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Post by jill on Sept 16, 2007 19:24:16 GMT
Fatself taken out of context Shane's quote could be read as a put down, but I really don't think that's what he meant. It was in the context of some comments about people being apathetic; not interested in what's going on outside their own front door and, yes, withdrawing into some passive, apathetic private life. Some of the best things in life are found in the everyday and 'mundane'-kids, family (sometimes ); friends, etc. But there's a lot in the everyday and mundane that's shit and shouldn't be embraced. People should be angry about a lot of things that they are accepting of or indifferent to IMO. I'm in danger of going off on one...I'll stop  |
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Post by fatself on Sept 16, 2007 19:28:21 GMT
yes, of course I do.
But I read it more as an indictment of the workaday man/woman.
Shanes lucky to have broken through the mould and made a successful career out of that specific medium.
some people have to shovel soggy crisps for a living....stuck with it.
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Post by saturdayskid on Sept 16, 2007 19:31:59 GMT
I can understand both points of view to be honest i think (hope) that shane meant it as a kick up the arse sort of way, and I agree with him wholly i look at some of my mates in the early 20's going to work coming back doin the same thing gettin dragged down in mortgages, rent, cars etc settling for the first thing that comes along and it aint me but also as a person who has to go to work 5 days a week i can understand who you come home and sometimes cant be arsed and all you wanna do is veg, i think you sometimes have to give yourself a kick up the arse to stop that cycle if you know what i mean, it is hard though.
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Post by PatrickCoyle on Sept 16, 2007 19:56:25 GMT
some people have to shovel soggy crisps for a living....stuck with it. Shane didn't meet a special wizard at the side of the road who gave him a film career. His dad isn't Ollie Reed or Mr Film Man. I'm not particularly patriotic, but the one thing I love about our society is that we have freedom of choice - nobody has to shovel them crisps. If someone wants to do something more, they can work towards it. But it's not really about shovelling crisps. Even if you do that for a living, you can still be passionate about stuff, you can still be involved in things. There are people now though who just don't give a fuck - or a thought - about anything. Except what a bitch this year's Big Brother "bitch" is. |
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Post by jill on Sept 16, 2007 20:09:39 GMT
It is all just Guardianista creative horizoning. Fair enough, if your a jobsworth and your spare time is COMPLETELY dedicated to TV...you may as well be dead. Not if you love telly though! haha I just realised.... it was while I was literally turning into a zombie doing 6 months of accounts that I actually got on with making this website and putting it on the web! It was probably all that kept me from going insane. I'm convinced that that job was worse than being in prison... I don't see how prison could be worse. Luckily I didn't (and still don't) have Sky. Who watches TV anyway? It's shit! So what you're saying is we have accountancy to thank for this site?! You didn't fancy lion taming then, like Mr. Anchovy? |
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Post by fatself on Sept 16, 2007 20:23:27 GMT
some people have to shovel soggy crisps for a living....stuck with it. Shane didn't meet a special wizard at the side of the road who gave him a film career. His dad isn't Ollie Reed or Mr Film Man. I'm not particularly patriotic, but the one thing I love about our society is that we have freedom of choice - nobody has to shovel them crisps. If someone wants to do something more, they can work towards it. But it's not really about shovelling crisps. Even if you do that for a living, you can still be passionate about stuff, you can still be involved in things. There are people now though who just don't give a fuck - or a thought - about anything. Except what a bitch this year's Big Brother "bitch" is. I was saying he was lucky to have broke the mould mate...people can have ideas brimmimg in there craniums, work till there toes fall off to get recognition but still remain at the bottom of the film industry ladder. Shane just managed to get noticed. As for choice...you may not choose to shovel crisps, but someone has to do it. AND its this equilibrium that allows the big shots to shine. You need your paupers. |
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