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Post by shanemeadows on Aug 12, 2009 4:28:58 GMT
Ok baby, now we finally have a release plan for Donk & Scorz, I thought it was time to get the master copies of the competition winners from our film competition, for the DVD extras.
The film will be coming out early october (fingers crossed) and the DVD by the end of the very same month! So we will need to get them in by the end of the month for mastering purposes etc.
Maybe we could work out an agreed file type/quality and do it via upload through yousendit or the like? Rather than having them arrive by camel on every format known to man!
Dave. You are a master in these spheres! Can you think of a good plan? Maybe if you post up the agreed format, I'll provide a secret email address to you, you send it on to the winners etc and can you get me a pirate copy of the new 'Harry Potter'?
Everyone involved will probably have to sign a release form before we can use them, so once we've made contact, Earthlings from Warp will send out the relevant paperwork.
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Post by shanemeadows on Aug 12, 2009 5:55:09 GMT
As a side note. Anyone who won who doesn't get in touch by the end of the month won't get on the DVD for obvious legal reasons and a replacement/s will be found from the Forum Voted Winners!
I don't think the guy who made trunk ever reappeared so there could be at least one slot going free...
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Post by Charles Newland on Aug 12, 2009 9:24:18 GMT
Sounds good!
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Post by Salvador on Aug 12, 2009 14:11:29 GMT
Congrats guys, thats fantastic news!
If got a film that can fill that gap...... :-P
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Post by Dave on Aug 12, 2009 14:42:19 GMT
But is there any type of file that the DVD wizards prefer? I'll have to message all the winners about this..... I'm not much of an expert about making DVDs. Most of these places use Macs I presume!  haha.... .MOV files best then? But then maybe non Mac users will have trouble making a .MOV file. All I'm certain about is that the resolution of DVD is 720x576 so the files need to be of that resolution with a high bit rate to look any good. |
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Post by wiggy on Aug 12, 2009 19:58:27 GMT
Shit, I'm in new Zealand until September 7th, please tell me this won't be a problem, I will sort out somthing if it will be
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Post by Bill Edwards on Aug 12, 2009 20:06:34 GMT
Cool! ;D
Well once the format's decided on I'll do the deed. What is the usual format that goes on DVDs? I've heard it's actually a DVD file itself. Is that right? You basically have to create a DVD of your film.
I have a request. ;D Please would it be OK if I sent in the second version of my animation? The version that I met the deadline with was kind of mucked up by my ignorance of certain technical things. I did another, better quality version, of my animation a few days later. The only other difference is that it's a couple of secs longer so there's a less sudden cut off of the thousand strong choir going 'AAHHH' at the end.
Cheers!
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Post by RydCook on Aug 13, 2009 0:26:15 GMT
Hello! I will happily sort this out as soon as the file specifications are sorted. I make a lot of DVDs... I usually just export the uncompressed file (a .Mov) then stick it into iDVD and that compresses it itself. The ulti-DVD makers arn't gonna use iDVD though! But surely they can compress the file how they need too? Perhaps we could all just send the uncompressed file? Not sure if it'd upload to the internet though. I think what Chrome is talking about is a Disk Image (.dmg)... basically a DVD as a file... if you open one up in your DVD player it'll play like a DVD. I could make one of those too... but I'm pretty sure that wouldn't work for the DVD making people.
I'm sure PC users can export to .MOV can't they?! I'm pretty sure Macs hate .AVIs but the DVD wizards might be all right with them. 720x576 Dave? So that's 4:3? I didn't know that.
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Post by Dave on Aug 13, 2009 0:39:15 GMT
Yeah 720x576, so yes, it is all based around 4:3. For 16:9 stuff, DVDs either do it letter-boxed within the 4:3 (which is quite annoying, because it is lower resolution.... the 24/7 DVD is like this! boo!  )... or it is anamorphic. Anamorphic is where the width of the 16:9 image is squashed into the 4:3 square. The image is then stretched out to 16:9 again by the DVD player or the TV you are using. So, I can't recall who was 16:9 and who was 4:3, but the 16:9 ones might need to be letter-boxed within 4:3 if we do have one or more 4:3 films! Ryd, can you check how big a 60second uncompressed .MOV file is please. Probably way too big for most people to upload using normal home connections. |
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Post by RydCook on Aug 13, 2009 15:08:55 GMT
Yeah 720x576, so yes, it is all based around 4:3. For 16:9 stuff, DVDs either do it letter-boxed within the 4:3 (which is quite annoying, because it is lower resolution.... the 24/7 DVD is like this! boo! )... or it is anamorphic. Anamorphic is where the width of the 16:9 image is squashed into the 4:3 square. The image is then stretched out to 16:9 again by the DVD player or the TV you are using. So, I can't recall who was 16:9 and who was 4:3, but the 16:9 ones might need to be letter-boxed within 4:3 if we do have one or more 4:3 films! Ryd, can you check how big a 60second uncompressed .MOV file is please. Probably way too big for most people to upload using normal home connections. That's really confusing... Gotta get my head round all this stuff If I'm gonna carry on with my projection work. I have to make my widescreen films 1024x576 to make them so they're actually wide on the DVD. I think thats a iDVD problem though. Having said this though, when I resize... the "Normal size" is still 720x576. the size it needs to be I guess. So you're saying its best to have the 16:9 films within a 4:3 frame? It seems bonkers to me. My film (which is 60 secs long and 16:9) is 217MB. Now that's not massive is it? Still not sure if that'll go online though. |
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Post by Dave on Aug 13, 2009 15:32:09 GMT
Found some visual examples of the anamorphic and ratio business.... it's all very easy. So, you have a 16:9 film and you want it to look like this on a 16:9 screen:  To achieve this with the best resolution possible on a DVD, the image on the DVD is still 4:3 (720x576) but looks like this:  On a 16:9 TV and with the DVD player set up properly, it stretches the squashed image to fill the 16:9 screen and all looks correct. If watched on a 4:3 TV with the correct DVD player settings, the image will be letterboxed like this:  If viewed on a 4:3 TV with the wrong output settings on the DVD player, it would fill the 4:3 screen, but would like the squashed second image (above). That's the anamorphic 16:9 DVDs The non-anamorphic DVDs (like the Twentyfour Seven DVD) work as follows: Instead of filling the 720x576 4:3 image on the DVD with the anamorphic version (like the second image above), the DVD has a letterboxed image sat in the middle of the 720x576 (4:3). On a 16:9 TV it looks like this:  ...and you have to zoom in to make it fill the screen. Therefore it is using a lower resolution (not the full 720x576). On a 4:3 TV it will be letterboxed as usual:  Basically, the anamorphic method means you get the best possible resolution for a 16:9 film on DVD because it uses all of the 720x576... whereas the letterboxed DVDs don't. |
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Post by Charles Newland on Aug 13, 2009 17:25:40 GMT
If anyone needs to resize, change the ratio or file type I used Mpeg Slipstream. It's an amazing program and dead easy to use, even for me cos I'm shit at such things!! It's free, I used it on a Mac but it's available for Windows too... www.squared5.com/Hope this is of some use. Charles |
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Post by Dave on Aug 13, 2009 17:36:45 GMT
I reckon that the uncompressed file for all the films will be fine, whether it is .MOV or .AVI
Two formats isn't too much hassle surely.
Just include a note saying what ratio it is intended to be. The DVD geniuses can sort the rest out.
Most free online file sending services have a file size limit. Often 100mb, so that might be a no go.
What about everyone burns their file to a CD as pure data, and then send it to an address. But what address? Shane, do you have an office or Warp Films address where things could be sent?
Failing that, I guess discs could be sent to me at work or something.
Oh, Both Gonzofilms and iwishiwasacamera have not yet seen the personal message I sent about this (you can tell if your messages have been opened by the recipient on here! Very clever!).... so I have also sent them an email each. Other than that, there isn't much else I can do to contact them.
This means that the films, Breakfast of Chamions, and The Trunk are the ones which have not yet confirmed.
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Post by shanemeadows on Aug 13, 2009 21:32:13 GMT
Just got off the phone to the DVD mastering folks and unless I can get everything in by tomorrow, It can't be done as it has to be classified etc. Piss!
Well luckily, there is a very good plan B.... We are planning a very special double disc boxset after Xmas with loads more stuff on it so we will have to aim for that one as I can't see any realistic way of getting it all in by tomorrow and if we could it would be a minor miracle not to have any issues with formats, upload probs etc, so lets eat a cadburys caramel and stick it on the special edition.
X.
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Post by RydCook on Aug 13, 2009 21:51:11 GMT
Just got off the phone to the DVD mastering folks and unless I can get everything in by tomorrow, It can't be done as it has to be classified etc. Piss! Well luckily, there is a very good plan B.... We are planning a very special double disc boxset after Xmas with loads more stuff on it so we will have to aim for that one as I can't see any realistic way of getting it all in by tomorrow and if we could it would be a minor miracle not to have any issues with formats, upload probs etc, so lets eat a cadburys caramel and stick it on the special edition. X. Balls... ha ha. Ah well, a special edition sounds exciting! Can't wait... just after xmas, that'll be close to my bday! ;D any word on file specifications? Oh and thanks for clearing up the aspect ratio thing Dave. I am more clued up now! |
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haha.... .MOV files best then? But then maybe non Mac users will have trouble making a .MOV file.
)... or it is anamorphic.