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Post by AdamShaw on Jul 12, 2011 12:03:45 GMT
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Post by wiggy on Jul 13, 2011 7:53:29 GMT
Hi
I don't like to be critical especially when the performances, sound and image quality are good but the crossing the line thing really distracts for me, surely it wasn't intentional was it??? other than that quite good
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Post by Dave on Jul 13, 2011 13:24:37 GMT
I enjoyed that. As Wiggy mentioned, good performances!
Not being a film-maker myself, I wasn't quite sure what Wiggy meant about "crossing the line", but when I watched it, I was reminded! Do you mean the way it cuts between the two blokes talking to each other and the angle of the shots makes it a look a bit.. err wrong?
What are the given rules for those kind of shots. Even though I felt it was a bit wrong, I couldn't quite work out why.
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Post by RydCook on Jul 13, 2011 22:10:55 GMT
I enjoyed that. As Wiggy mentioned, good performances! Not being a film-maker myself, I wasn't quite sure what Wiggy meant about "crossing the line", but when I watched it, I was reminded! Do you mean the way it cuts between the two blokes talking to each other and the angle of the shots makes it a look a bit.. err wrong? What are the given rules for those kind of shots. Even though I felt it was a bit wrong, I couldn't quite work out why. 180 Degree rule. It didn't bother me actually. Apparently, its been proven the 180 Degree rule doesn't matter. Audience don't care. So I heard anyway. I like the idea of the film, didn't really make me laugh though. I liked the Director's scarf, and how he approached those people. |
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Post by wiggy on Jul 15, 2011 21:17:48 GMT
it doesn't always matter, sometimes tarrantino crosses the line on purpose but in this instance it looks as if both actors are talking to a third person as they both face the same direction
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Post by Gary on Jul 16, 2011 10:14:15 GMT
I enjoyed it! The crossing the line thing sticks out like a sore thumb once you know it's there, would be interesting to watch it without knowing it was going to be there to see if I would of noticed it...
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Post by Gareth on Jul 16, 2011 21:37:35 GMT
Dave say two people were talking across a table, there's a line of action between them,
if you shot one of them from one side of the line then crossed the line of action to shoot the other from the side when edited one would be talking to the back of the others head
or imagine a chase scene say the cars were moving on screen left to right if you crossed the line they'd be moving right to left
its all just a case of whether the audience can judge the geography of the scene
took me a surprising amount of time to understand it looking back I cant understand why
in this case its really distracting could try and flop the footage in the edit see if the eyelines match
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Post by Bill Edwards on Jul 18, 2011 18:54:26 GMT
Enjoyed that. Funny.
See what you mean about the crossing the line business. Not sure if I'd noticed it if I hadn't have read the previous posts but I might have thought that he had turned to look the other way as if in thought or reverie...
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Post by shindig on Jul 19, 2011 8:39:52 GMT
Didn't bother me that much. Ignorance really is bliss. Good effort.
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Post by jill on Jul 19, 2011 19:46:35 GMT
The best have all done it, I think, including Kubrick. Wong Kar Wai seems to have made it a bit of a trademark. Anyway, I wasn't put off. Liked the short, but was a bit slick for my taste. A personal thing, not a criticism.
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Post by Gareth on Jul 19, 2011 22:51:09 GMT
watched the other night and Kubrick does it in eyes wide shut when cruise is in the fancy dress shop and hurries the bloke along feels like its done as a sort of punctuation, sort of at the turning point in the scene we flip
its just whether it fits into the edit seamlessly or whether it jars and if its jars is there a reason for it jaring but god knows whether I'd of really noticed if I hadnt read the comments before hand
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