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Post by Gareth on Nov 1, 2009 19:56:37 GMT
cant remember the previous discussions about this film, but I thought it was a feature based on 'three tears for jimmy profit' then the studio got hold of it, the huge problem I've got with it is that all shanes other films are so so natural and real thats why I love them so much, I havent seen midlands in years but I remember it being extremely heightened.
I'd have loved to have seen Paddy coming back to town to face his demons and try and win his girl back, but without midlands as it is we wouldn't have DMS!
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Post by Bill Edwards on Nov 3, 2009 19:50:41 GMT
The major thing is that the other films Shane has done affect you as a viewer in such a massive way and OUATITM doesn't do that to the same extent, it doesnt leave you thinking after it ends. Exactly. I don't think I'll ever be able to watch it and appreciate this film on it's own terms. But you're right Gareth. DMS is one hell of a Phoenix. |
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Post by GR on Jan 2, 2012 4:49:59 GMT
*bump* I kinda figured OUATITM would be hard to enjoy on its own terms, knowing how it ended up not working out the way Shane had planned it, but I'm glad I finally gave it a chance -- there were some promising ideas in there and the finished product certainly had its moments.  |
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Post by scheevers on Dec 9, 2013 23:58:12 GMT
It's not a bad film but when stacked up with Shane's other work's it stand's out like sore thumb. I think Robert Carlyle is a great actor but this isn't one of his greatest performances, same goes for Shirley Henderson. Kathy Burke and Ricky Tomlinson were good but they could have been played by local actors. The Stand outs are Rhys Ifans and Finn Atkins. It doesn't feel like a Shane film to me, it lacks that heart which fills his other works. But I always feel he needed this experience and it made him go on and make his two best films to date, so it was good for him.
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Post by Dave on Dec 10, 2013 14:22:26 GMT
It's not a bad film but when stacked up with Shane's other work's it stand's out like sore thumb. I think Robert Carlyle is a great actor but this isn't one of his greatest performances, same goes for Shirley Henderson. Kathy Burke and Ricky Tomlinson were good but they could have been played by local actors. The Stand outs are Rhys Ifans and Finn Atkins. It doesn't feel like a Shane film to me, it lacks that heart which fills his other works. But I always feel he needed this experience and it made him go on and make his two best films to date, so it was good for him. It's true, it's very possible that Dead Man's Shoes and This is England may not have come into existence without OUTITM happening... well, they may not have turned out the same anyway. Dead Man's Shoes is the more likely of the two not to have happened without OUTITM. IT was almost a direct reaction to Shane's experiences making OUTITM to try and capture the essenece of his earlier films that felt lacking in OUTITM. Partly thanks to Paddy COnsidine of course telling Shane what he thought of OUTITM (not that favourable!). |
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Post by scheevers on Dec 10, 2013 19:10:09 GMT
It's not a bad film but when stacked up with Shane's other work's it stand's out like sore thumb. I think Robert Carlyle is a great actor but this isn't one of his greatest performances, same goes for Shirley Henderson. Kathy Burke and Ricky Tomlinson were good but they could have been played by local actors. The Stand outs are Rhys Ifans and Finn Atkins. It doesn't feel like a Shane film to me, it lacks that heart which fills his other works. But I always feel he needed this experience and it made him go on and make his two best films to date, so it was good for him. It's true, it's very possible that Dead Man's Shoes and This is England may not have come into existence without OUTITM happening... well, they may not have turned out the same anyway. Dead Man's Shoes is the more likely of the two not to have happened without OUTITM. IT was almost a direct reaction to Shane's experiences making OUTITM to try and capture the essenece of his earlier films that felt lacking in OUTITM. Partly thanks to Paddy COnsidine of course telling Shane what he thought of OUTITM (not that favourable!). Plus shows That Paddy had it in him to be a great writer/director too. Most talented artists need a fall at times to pick themselves up and show the world they've still got it. |
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Post by GR on Dec 10, 2013 23:03:30 GMT
It's not a bad film but when stacked up with Shane's other work's it stand's out like sore thumb... The Stand outs are Rhys Ifans and Finn Atkins. It doesn't feel like a Shane film to me, it lacks that heart which fills his other works. My sentiments exactly. But yeah, if Shane's experience on this is what ended up bringing about DMS, hey, I'm glad it happened!  |
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Post by scheevers on Feb 27, 2014 11:07:39 GMT
It's not a bad film but when stacked up with Shane's other work's it stand's out like sore thumb... The Stand outs are Rhys Ifans and Finn Atkins. It doesn't feel like a Shane film to me, it lacks that heart which fills his other works. My sentiments exactly. But yeah, if Shane's experience on this is what ended up bringing about DMS, hey, I'm glad it happened! Most director's always have a misstep in their career, this is Shane's. As I said not a bad film, I watched it over Christmas still think Robert Carlyle is a weak spot in the film, this coming from a big fan of his. This led to DMS so we can look back fondly on it as a small misstep in a other wise flawless career. |
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