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Post by shanh999 on May 13, 2007 17:07:18 GMT
Having attempted to watch this film after watching this is England at the cinema ,I am dismayed to find that i was glad that the dreadful men in the film died in awful ways and as a nurse it has left me feeling very disappointed in myself as i thought myself a forgiving and understanding women.But as a mother of a boy who looks uncannily like Anthony and who is autistic and resembles Anthony in mannerisms and even gait I'm horrified that my worse nightmares were laid bare before me and to be honest i cant get it out of my mind .Shane's film has affected me like no other and i admire his honesty and craftsmanship .
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Post by RichK on May 14, 2007 20:02:49 GMT
This is not the first post I have seen on a forum to this effect.. I think someone on the imdb site said something similar. ***SPOILER***Don't be disappointed in yourself.. look at the film as a whole - the killing of the men.. this vile redemption.. ended up destroying Richard too and there are lessons to be learned there for those who seek "an eye for an eye" justice on those who have harmed them. Morality, both social and personal, is an incredibly fluid, ever-changing concept and what is justifiable now may be abhorrent in the future.. and vice versa.. ever it was so!
All the best.
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Post by jtrodreigez on May 15, 2007 9:00:28 GMT
thats the whole point i think.
Look what you made me do.
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Post by anonlytwin on May 15, 2007 12:47:17 GMT
yet shane- who has publicly admitted to hating and despising the sort of men portrayed- still manages to let us get close to these horrid little men (i was gonna say maybe not sonny- but i'd argue that even sonny recieves a human portrayal) shane lets us into their lives and -ok- we often laugh at them, but i for one, on occassion, am laughing with them... fortunately i don't have any mates who have committed the horrors / been in complicity with the horrors that herbie and co have but i do have mates who speak like them, joke like them, act the fool like them and this engenders a closeness and compassion for these characters that very much sits at odds with how much you hate them/ want richrad to kill them... its back to compassion isn't it? the same issue arises in RFB-
Room for romeo brass*SPOILER*
The same issue arises with morrell in RFB- a big part of me hates him but a big part of me loves many bits about him and I am gutted every time, when he becomes a character who you lose all connection with
i agree with you totally- shanh999- i wnat them dead too. but this journey is a complex one that is certainly not black and white....
I am surely not on my own?
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Post by andytyke on May 16, 2007 16:42:46 GMT
just registered - DMS is one of, if not the, best film ever for me i first saw DMS on channel 4 a few weeks ago but missed the first 5 minutes - immediately bought the DVD and those first 5 minutes showing "richard and anthony" playing on the old cine film had me in tears (and that's an event that usually comes around as often as Halley's Comet) *SPOILERS* it just made the rest of the film and the outcome (anthony's death) so much more poignant for me seeing the start, thinking about how richard would have looked after him all those years *END SPOILERS* thanks for bearing with my ramblings
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Post by anonlytwin on May 16, 2007 16:58:26 GMT
good to have you on board andy... interesting what you say about the footage at the start... i suppose it could have also fitted in at the end- as your point kinda proves...
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