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Post by shanemeadows on Oct 26, 2009 6:46:53 GMT
I just thought I would give a little insight into how 5DF will work or not work depending on whether you want the 5DF stamp of approval.
5 days is very much the only rule and it must be adhered. No films that are made in 'private' in '5 days' will be eligible for the 5DF stamp of approval. Only films that have been monitored by ourselves, whether that be with full funding, some production assistance or by simply having the 5DF representative on the shoot, can become part of the 5DF movement. Otherwise how can we ever know how much time has really been spent on something.
If someone wants to use their five days over five years then cool. Bend it, stretch it, smack it around. My main advice is to shoot as many hrs per day as possible seeing as simple mathmatics would mean 8/16/24 hrs shoot times equate to 5/10/15 days of comparable shoot time. But, I found the optimum time for Le Donk to be 12 hours because paddy was improvising so much. Anything beyond that and he may have imploded! For something that involved more traditional setup time, a bit of lighting etc, I would work closer to 20hrs.
Once the DVD release of Le Donk is out of the way, we will sit down and work out a launch strategy for next year. Expect a manifesto in the new year and a website to follow with everything you need to know.
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Post by Gary on Oct 26, 2009 9:14:46 GMT
Shane what's the minimum running time of the final film that you would consider a feature?
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Post by RydCook on Oct 26, 2009 12:15:19 GMT
Cheers for info Shane. I've a couple of ideas for this.
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Post by Gary on Oct 26, 2009 13:18:45 GMT
Cheers for info Shane. I've a couple of ideas for this. I've got a note pad that has the heading "Five day Feature..." but not alot else underneath it. The reason I ask what time running time classes as a feature is because I'm writing... or at least researching and putting ideas together for a short that is would probably end up too long to be a "short" short anyway. |
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Post by shanemeadows on Oct 26, 2009 16:46:33 GMT
I think the magic number seems to be 70 and beyond in terms of mins. Somers Town got a right good pasting for being under 70 mins (68 mins) and although they have mentioned the running time of donk (72mins) noone seems to want to beat me up this time. Smalltime (60mins) actually lost an award back in the day, because it wasn't above 70mins.
What do others think? Anything over 60 is fine with me, but alot of people seem obsessed with anything under 90 mins seeming like a rip-off.
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Post by Dave on Oct 26, 2009 21:22:38 GMT
I like the idea of 60 minutes being the minimum. Depending on the amount of projects that get made, collections of them could be put on one DVD. You can probably get about 3 x 60 minute films on one DVD. With 3 films on one disc, I think people would be more inclined to give some small and unknown films a punt. Plus, if someone specifically wants one of the films, then the other two get some nice exposure from that too! I know if I saw a DVD of three 5 day features of 60 minutes each, I'd just go for it and buy the mother! Hey Shane, if you're reading this, would you mind taking a peek at the request from Andrew Collins in the scissors thread HERE. Thanks! |
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Post by Companero on Oct 27, 2009 9:04:19 GMT
This sounds great. Can't wait to find out more. Lovin your avatar pic, Mr Meadows.  |
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Post by Kezz on Oct 27, 2009 13:27:02 GMT
Awesome, awesome. Something for 2010 for myself I think.
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Post by shanemeadows on Oct 27, 2009 18:40:01 GMT
This sounds great. Can't wait to find out more. Lovin your avatar pic, Mr Meadows. Yeah, I'm just going through Herzog's back catalog at the mo. I loved the Herzog Kinski boxset! My fav so far tho has to be 'The Enigma of Kasper Hauser'. After seeing 'My best Fiend' I feel like i should try and get Paddy to have more freakouts on set so I can call him Klaus Considine! Man that was some vindaloo chemistry between Herzog and Kinski. The only thing that comes close with me and paddy is when we play fifa. |
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Post by Companero on Oct 27, 2009 22:09:27 GMT
Maybe if you filmed your next film in Peru, you'd get the same kind of reaction out of him! Maybe you can get a bunch of native tribes people to pull a Bedford Rascal over a mountain?
I've still not seen Kasper Hauser - I'll definitely check that out. My favourites of those that I've seen are Aguirre, Fitzcarraldo and Nosferatu.
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Post by shanemeadows on Oct 28, 2009 9:49:12 GMT
Yeah I watched Aguirre yesterday. It was great, The opening shot is awe inspiring, It's hilarious that Kinski got chucked out of the shot for being mardi about wanting a close-up! Have you seen Stroysek? That has one of the most surreal endings ever put to film. I've not seen much of his recent stuff but his early work is awe inspiring.
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Post by Companero on Oct 28, 2009 13:30:48 GMT
No, I've not seen Stroysek, either. Of his earlier films, I've only seen all the stuff he did with Kinski. I've got a box set that has Stroysek, Kasper Hauser, Heart of Glass and others and I shall watch them on your recommendation.
Of his recent stuff, Grizzly Man is well worth watching. Rescue Dawn is also good, but none of his more recent films top the likes of Aguirre and Fitzcarraldo; films that blatantly look like the work of a demented genius. If you've not read Kinski's autobiography, Kinski Uncut, I would recommend that. It's a brilliant read and really, really funny.
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Post by Charles Newland on Oct 28, 2009 13:36:14 GMT
Stroszek is on of the most depressing things I've ever seen! It's no wonder Ian Curtis did himself in after watching it.. The Bad Lieutenant film he directed is out this year, really looking forward to it.
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Post by Companero on Oct 28, 2009 13:40:21 GMT
Stroszek is on of the most depressing things I've ever seen! It's no wonder Ian Curtis did himself in after watching it.. The Bad Lieutenant film he directed is out this year, really looking forward to it. The first trailer for his Bad LT film looked awful but some people I know have seen it and speak really high of it. I'm really looking forward to checking it out now. |
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Post by Bill Edwards on Oct 28, 2009 21:00:54 GMT
Only films that have been monitored by ourselves, whether that be with full funding, some production assistance or by simply having the 5DF representative on the shoot, can become part of the 5DF movement. Otherwise how can we ever know how much time has really been spent on something. OIC. I've been wondering how it would be proven. Cheers. Interesting stuff. |
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