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Post by RichK on Aug 23, 2013 18:56:00 GMT
Thanks for posting that-nice little clip. I was surprised that he has influenced so many young song writers (Alex Turner too-the Artic Monkeys performed I Wanna Be Yours at Glastonbury this summer). The documentary has been taken down from Youtube, but anybody interested to see it can view on BBC i-player: www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01jcdbc/Evidently..._John_Cooper_Clarke/Thanks for posting. Enjoyed that. This one always makes me giggle. "To convey one's mood in seventeen syllables is very diffic." It's a hire car baby - rent it dent it vaunt it flaunt it. Interesting? fact - that documentary was directed by John Ross, who helped a bit in the locations department on "Once Upon a Time in the Midlands" back in 2001. A thoroughly lovely chap, and did a great job on the JCC doc too.
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Post by arclight on Jan 12, 2014 14:34:45 GMT
The Story of the Top of the Pops 1979The Story of Top of the Pops 1979 is almost the story of the Grey Topper music venue in the Nottinghamshire pit village of Jacksdale in 1979 (minus the pervy dj's!) - week after week that year bands that had that were appearing on TOTP then got lost in fog as they descened into the valley and found themselves in what The Member's Nick Tesco described as 'we drove through the countrysdie and found ourselves in a cartoonist's idea of a grim mining vilage,' but then 'the gig, though, was awesome, it completely blew us all away, I've never forgotten it.' Later that year though The Members returned and Tesco's admits - 'the second time we played the Topper we were on our way down I guess. My favourite memory was talking to this kid, who was very pleasant, and then came out with: "You used to be good, but now you're wank." I used that as a motto for ages. That said we had a couple of the best gigs we've ever played there.'* 'Back in the summer of 79 it was great though, a few weeks after playing the Grey Topper, ‘Gangster’s’ went Top 10 and we were on Top Of The Pops. Most of us got drunk the first time on that. Me and Brad were escorted out of the BBC after I’d had a go at one of the top guys there for pushing in front of me at the bar. Having to be there early morning until early evening and being told what to do made it seem like being back at school, so after a few drinks we acted accordingly,' Roddy Radiation, The Specials* *from The Palace and the Punks
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Post by jill on Jan 13, 2014 23:34:19 GMT
Saw that story of ToTP 79. Was a special episode, though no Beat Did you catch the 76 episode? Jeez. 75-76 must be the absolute nadir of British pop music... Happy New Year all you (not so) young Punks
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Post by arclight on Jan 14, 2014 11:35:50 GMT
And the UK Subs were ignored again too, they had several songs in top 40 that year, and Charlie Harper has never sold out and shown he is true to the cause, as I write this he and his band are no doubt on the road somewhere in the world off to do another gig tonight. For years they have been releasing albums in alphabetical order, I reckon they are now at y or z! The Stranglers too were ignored by the BBC again? And yes Jill loved The Beat that year and why weren't any of The Specials interviewed as they were the main ska revival band, Jerry Damners started the Two Tone label and The Specials were a brilliant mix of ska and punk and sang about social issues whereas Madness (as much as I love them) were a Music Hall comedy band.
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Post by jill on Jan 26, 2014 22:23:36 GMT
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Post by jill on Jan 27, 2014 19:01:32 GMT
And yes Jill loved The Beat that year and why weren't any of The Specials interviewed as they were the main ska revival band, Jerry Damners started the Two Tone label and The Specials were a brilliant mix of ska and punk and sang about social issues whereas Madness (as much as I love them) were a Music Hall comedy band. I totally loved The Beat (the International Beat, the English Beat whatever). My favourite of all the late 70s/early 80s Ska revival bands. I was expecting Jerry Damners to get some new/renewed love when Mandela died, but the media seems to have largely overlooked all the activism around Free Nelson Mandela. You're quite right there was much more to The Specials than the music-Ghost Town, was and remains a great song and Too Much Too Young is good social comment too. Don't be too hard on Madness though I liked them and respect for introducing a new generation to Prince Buster: On my last post, since Shane made Made of Stone, I've become more aware of all the documentaries that have been made about punk. I must admit, I haven't seen many of them-including the first documentary about CBGB (2003?) during the punk era. And I haven't yet seen Oil City Confidential (Julien Temples)about Dr Feelgood-generally regarded as one of the best music documentaries of all time. I watched the documentary End of the Century (Ramones-obviously) on youtube last night: You seen that Arclight (anybody)? It's pretty good. I really love music. It's a toss up for me whether my first love is music or film, but I haven't really paid any serious attention to the music press since I was about 17 ;D So, I'm often pretty ignorant about all the background noise and shananigans around my favourite bands, I always knew that Johnny Ramone was a right wing nut job, and we should never speak ill of the dead....but after watching this, it has to said...what a total @*!* Joey, on the other hand, was a total sweetie Oh well... For your pleasure:
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Post by arclight on Feb 5, 2014 16:25:56 GMT
Hi Jill Thanks for the posts, I’m addicted to music docs, mainly the ones shown on BBC 4, and it doesn’t have to be music or a band/singer I’m into, they’re always entertaining stories, love the road they took - and characters and stories – along the way. And often find I’ll tune into one thinking I’ll not like the music of the band, then finding I do. Even the Chas and Dave doc was an eye-opener! The latest one, Dave Grohl’s doc about Sound City music studio was superb, ending with Beatle Nirvana! Paul McCartney jamming with the remaining members of the grunge legends, best thing I’ve heard Paul McCartney do in years. Don’t get me wrong on Madness, I love them, my favourite band when I was in the last year of school and ‘Baggy Trousers’ came out. Calling them music hall is not a criticism but a compliment, I reckon they’d say they’re a bit music hall themselves – even the Sex Pistols did as John Lydon admits. One of my favourite memories of Glastonbury 2009 was seeing Madness on the Pyramid Stage (and saw The Specials on there the day before!) when they did ‘One Step Beyond’ and the crowd formed a huge nutty dance snake
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Post by arclight on Feb 5, 2014 16:47:37 GMT
And I haven't yet seen Oil City Confidential (Julien Temples)about Dr Feelgood-generally regarded as one of the best music documentaries of all time. Jacksdale, Grey Topper is mentioned in Oil City Confidential! Dr Feelgood manager Chris Fenwick talks about the early band - then called Pig Boy Charlie Band - playing their first gig outside of the SW and London area at a club just off junction 27 of the M1, the 'Silk Top Hat Club' this is actually the Grey Topper and he tells the story again the Topper book The Palace and the Punks
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Post by jill on Feb 5, 2014 18:47:48 GMT
And I haven't yet seen Oil City Confidential (Julien Temples)about Dr Feelgood-generally regarded as one of the best music documentaries of all time. Jacksdale, Grey Topper is mentioned in Oil City Confidential! Dr Feelgood manager Chris Fenwick talks about the early band - then called Pig Boy Charlie Band - playing their first gig outside of the SW and London area at a club just off junction 27 of the M1, the 'Silk Top Hat Club' this is actually the Grey Topper and he tells the story again the Topper book The Palace and the Punks Ha! Excellent!
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Post by jill on Feb 5, 2014 19:02:28 GMT
Hi Jill Thanks for the posts, I’m addicted to music docs, mainly the ones shown on BBC 4, and it doesn’t have to be music or a band/singer I’m into, they’re always entertaining stories, love the road they took - and characters and stories – along the way. And often find I’ll tune into one thinking I’ll not like the music of the band, then finding I do. Even the Chas and Dave doc was an eye-opener! The latest one, Dave Grohl’s doc about Sound City music studio was superb, ending with Beatle Nirvana! Paul McCartney jamming with the remaining members of the grunge legends, best thing I’ve heard Paul McCartney do in years. Don’t get me wrong on Madness, I love them, my favourite band when I was in the last year of school and ‘Baggy Trousers’ came out. Calling them music hall is not a criticism but a compliment, I reckon they’d say they’re a bit music hall themselves – even the Sex Pistols did as John Lydon admits. One of my favourite memories of Glastonbury 2009 was seeing Madness on the Pyramid Stage (and saw The Specials on there the day before!) when they did ‘One Step Beyond’ and the crowd formed a huge nutty dance snake Ha, yes I could read the affection behind the comment in your post:) Like I say, I haven't watched that many pop documentary DVD's-need to catch up. I really like the South Bank show on the Smiths, which is now available on youtube. I watched the BBC 4 programme about Blondie-although I wasn't a huge fan-and it was good viewing. It's pretty sad, though a familiar tale, how many bands tell the story about signing up to something and then when it was all over, finding out that they'd sold millions of records and were flat broke/owed money to the IRS/inland revenue I'm guessing you've seen it, but CBGB features again (of course). On Nirvana, did you see the Gus Van San film Last Days about Kurt Cobain? A controversial one in that a lot of people hate it, but I really like it.
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Post by arclight on Feb 8, 2014 13:28:28 GMT
Yeah saw the film supposedly based on Kurt Cobain's last days, very strange film, basically incoherent, was expecting more, but sort of compelling to watch nonetheless.
Saw the Blondie doc too, sad how former band members end up in court against each other, loved the bit at the end when one such from Blondie tried to creep back into the band for the rock n roll hall of fame award and Debbie Harry completely makes him look a dick, ‘can’t you see this is my band now.’
There was a repeat of a great Arena doc from 1984 about the Everly Brothers on BBC 4 last night, they went back to the old mining community they came from (like the American version of places like Jacksdale), great grass roots music.
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Post by ramaway on Feb 19, 2014 19:09:12 GMT
Jilted John still makes me smile when i hear it on the radio
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Post by arclight on Mar 2, 2014 10:41:20 GMT
Jilted John still makes me smile when i hear it on the radio Jilted John aka Graham Fellows aka John Shuttleworth
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Post by arclight on Jun 30, 2014 20:47:08 GMT
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Post by jill on Jul 12, 2014 11:31:36 GMT
RIP Tommy
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