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Post by bob on Mar 7, 2006 12:53:34 GMT
is it a worthy film though in the same way as Irreversible?
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Post by Companero on Mar 7, 2006 13:57:24 GMT
is it a worthy film though in the same way as Irreversible? Depends on how much teen rape and shit eating (I'm not kidding) you can stomach. The film is a seering critique on the upper classes for sure but it is very, very unpleasant.
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Post by Phil on Mar 7, 2006 15:31:33 GMT
I recently puchased and watched Etre et Avoir. A heart-warming documentary about a single class school in rural France. Really great documentary film making from Nicholas Philibert, who lets the events speak for themselves, with no intrusive directoral agenda.
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Post by quixote on Mar 7, 2006 16:44:46 GMT
i liked amelie but preferred jeunet's earlier films with marc caro delicatessen and city of lost children were still fairy tales but with a darkness that all good fairytales should have, also i've got to mention kurasawa my personal favourite is sanjuro, toshiro mifune is brilliant the hardest hero in films only lee marvin comes close. and just to mention a few others das boot, nikita, dolce vita, dobermann, the closet, le dinner des cans and i can't believe nobody mentioned cyrano de bergeracit always makes it into my top ten of all time favourite movies depardeiu's amazing in it
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Post by bob on Mar 7, 2006 21:05:00 GMT
Noi Albinoi, anyone? Its superb
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Post by Workshed on Mar 16, 2006 2:26:22 GMT
MissDonk - When I was 20 I went every day to see a season of Pasolini at the Cornerhouse in Manchester. Never regretted it. Try to see as many films as you can.
Remember, Salo is based on REAL EVENTS as filtered through the eyes of the Marquis De Sade. If you like a bit of controversy I also recommend Russell's 'The Devils', Peter Brook's 'Marat Sade' and Godard's 'Weekend' though, in the gross-out stakes, Salo beats 'em all hands down..
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Post by marksherbert on Mar 16, 2006 10:30:34 GMT
That's an understatement - I would call it repugnant. It's funny because if a lesser know director had made Salo, it would have been trashed at the time (which it was) and fall into complete obscurity thereafter - but because was made by Pasolini, it’s now considered an important film. That said, Pasolini is certainly a fascinating individual – his murder remains shrouded in mystery to this day. He was killed a few months after Salo was released and there have been all sorts of speculation and conspiracy theories. The official story is that he took a rent boy to a secluded beach, whereupon the youngster bludgeoned him and then ran him over with his own car. However, Italy has had a history of corruption within its government (which still persists today) and Pasolini had written a two-part article in a newspaper detailing what had been happening. Pasolini was murdered the week the first part was published and before the conclusion (which is said to have implicated key politicians in wrong doings) was to be printed the following week. Others believe he was killed because of Salo or even his overt homosexuality... Pasolini’s friend and fellow filmmaker Bernardo Bertolucci is adamant that is WAS a political assassination. Why wouldn't you watch a film because it's not 'nice'? Things don't have to be nice. Most nice things are shit. Apparently about a week before Pasolini died he said 'I will be killed very soon'. Shortly before his death he was also researching the Mafia. Who knows. Still a great filmmaker though. It always makes me think what would all these filmmakers who died before there career was over would be making now. Imagine what kind of films Cassavetes, Fassbinder, Pasolini, Clarke, Jarman, Tarkovsky etc would be making if they were still alive. I'm Dave, I'm the one who told Miss Donk not to watch it. I guess I was just being protective of my girlfriend. After I saw it I felt totally drained, and I had a sick feeling in my stomach, and for a while everything kind of went black. Don't get me wrong, its a great piece of work, I just don't really want her to feel like that too. Maybe she should watch it.
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Post by marksherbert on Mar 16, 2006 10:32:04 GMT
I really want to see some John Cassavettes, but I can't find his films anywhere. Any ideas?
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Post by namewithnohorse on Mar 16, 2006 12:50:03 GMT
I really want to see some John Cassavettes, but I can't find his films anywhere. Any ideas? Good news. There's a five disc box set available.. www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000A2FCPQ/qid=1142513167/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_11_1/026-0982865-4190804Every film in there is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL. 'A Woman Under the Influence' is one of my absolute favourite films. I bought the Criterion box set a few years back becasue there wasn't a region2 version. Cost me a bloody fortune but more than worth it. If you're skint you could rent them maybe. Once you see Cassavetes the way you look at films will change irrevocably. You won't find cause to prove me wrong. Trust me.
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Post by bobmil on Mar 16, 2006 22:29:42 GMT
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Post by missdonk on Mar 16, 2006 22:33:12 GMT
I'm Dave, I'm the one who told Miss Donk not to watch it. I guess I was just being protective of my girlfriend. After I saw it I felt totally drained, and I had a sick feeling in my stomach, and for a while everything kind of went black. Don't get me wrong, its a great piece of work, I just don't really want her to feel like that too. Maybe she should watch it. Thanks babe, I don't think I would want to feel like that either. Although one day I may bring myself to watch it. x x
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Post by Workshed on Mar 17, 2006 2:52:31 GMT
Watch 'Faces' and you'll see why he's held in such high regard. The guy was married to Gena Rowlands - recommendation enough if ever there was one. I got all my Cassavettes from Emule quite easily (after paying for it to come from China on ebay first - it never arrived!) and there are a couple of movies that aren't in the box set. Husbands is great fun if you love Peter Falk. Ben Gazzara is my fave of all his stock actors though my fave BG performance is in 'Tales Of Ordinary Madness'. He reaches levels most actors can only dream of.
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Post by bobmil on Mar 17, 2006 9:22:46 GMT
Tales of Ordinary Madneess is superb tho I hear that Bukowski never really approved if it for unknown reasons ..defo invest in some Cassavettes
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Post by Companero on Mar 17, 2006 9:25:25 GMT
[ I'm Dave, I'm the one who told Miss Donk not to watch it. I guess I was just being protective of my girlfriend. After I saw it I felt totally drained, and I had a sick feeling in my stomach, and for a while everything kind of went black. Don't get me wrong, its a great piece of work, I just don't really want her to feel like that too. Maybe she should watch it. Hey Dave - you're right mate and I'm sure you'd know exactly what your GF would like and dislike - there's no way in hell I'd suggest to my girlfriend that she should watch Salo - I think if I did, she''d soon become my ex-girlfriend ;D The inquisitive side of me gets drawn to films like Salo - part of me what's to be challenged and shocked but there have been few films that I have seen that I have had a serious problem with and Salo is definitely one of them.
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Post by Hyde on Mar 17, 2006 13:56:17 GMT
The Cannibal Holocaust and City of God.
I havnt seen as much movies as you guys.
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