SPOILER CENTRAL!! You have been warned!!

[Hyde]

Dave was also in a scene where he walked towards the camera to the right wasnt he, I saw Phil and Darren aswell. Brilliant.

Wish I had stayed for the after party! To be honest, I'm pretty sure if I had been there I'd have either got steaming or fallen asleep... probably both.

[Kezz]

marksherbert said:

I really liked the last shot, of Tommo looking directly into the camera (which incidentally is different to the ending we first saw)

So Dave do you mind me asking what happened in the ending you did see?

Was it the ending we filmed where shaun is re-united with the gang?

[Companero]

kezz said:

companero said:

There weren't any casualties that I saw; no one got too pissed.

some of us liggers that were chatting shit outside the cinema ended up getting invited back to the after party.

HaHa! Which afterparty was this Paul.. because I'm pretty sure over half the people there were absolutly Steamin.. not to mention myself! Had a real bad head this mornin on the journey home.. What more can you say though.. It was a free bar!!

Yeah thats the first thing I thought when that scene came on..
"Oh yeah Dave was there then!"[/quote]

don't forget, I left at just after one; some of you lot where there until kick-out at 3am! I must say, I had a headache this morning - don't think it was the alcohol; more likely the strange taxi driver that talked non-stop for half an hour. Did my fucking head in, he did...

[Hyde]

SPOILERS!!!!!!! (Cant help it.. habit!)

Did anyone jump a little when Combo boots Milky in the face?

END SPOILER!!!!!

I did... fucking hell... that tension is so real its unbeleivable.

Why do scenes like that just seem to always work in Shanes work? Nothing compares IMO. Morrel threatening Knock Knock in Romeo Brass, Richard "you ya cunt" in Dead Mans Shoes etc.

[GADGE!]

HEY EVERYONE NICE TO MEET YOU ALL LAST NIGHT JUST GOT BACK FROM LDN RITE NOW HAD AN AMAZEING TIME WE GOT A GREAT TURN OUT THIS AFTERNOON ALTHOUGH A FEW CAST MEMBERS WERNT THERE.

IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION ABOVE HYDE I THINK ITS BECAUSE THERE ALWAYS UNEXPECTED ARN'T THEY THERE NOT THE "HOLLYWOOD WAY" OF DOING IT WHERE YOUR SAT THERE FOR AN HOUR KNOWING THAT ITS GOING TO HAPPEN. AND YEAH I DEFFINATLY JUMPED AT THAT POINT AND CLOSED ME EYES ON A LOT OF THAT SCENE.

NICE MEETIN ALL YOU FOLKS HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN SOMETIME
GADGE!

[Dave]

richk said:

Also, I'm amazed the Bifa committee overlooked your "man with back to camera in cafe" performance for the "best supporting actor" award. A real travesty...

That's the trouble with these awards organisers, they haven't got a bloody clue.
....and as Hyde pointed out, I also appeared in an establishing shot of the precinct doing some walking style 'acting'... the like of which I've certainly never seen before!

Phil and Darren opening the chippy though! That needs some BIFA petitioning too!

Oh yeah.... This Is England. It's great. ;D I will begin to bang-on about it when I'm not half-asleep.... so tomorrow!

[marksherbert]

kezz said:

marksherbert said:

I really liked the last shot, of Tommo looking directly into the camera (which incidentally is different to the ending we first saw)

So Dave do you mind me asking what happened in the ending you did see?

Was it the ending we filmed where shaun is re-united with the gang?

The ending in terms of what happened was the same, but whereas in the final version Shaun's Mum told him Milky would be fine, in the one we saw Shaun is sitting near the beach and Milky comes along and sits next to him. But I think the newer ending is necessary because it emphasises the fact that Shaun has learnt that he has to make decisions and think for himself from that point on.

There was also a cool scene in the other version where Shaun is in the Chip Shop (Shane plays the bloke behind the counter in another classic 'wig' cameo). He comes out and the lad that bullied him at school starts giving him shit again, and knocks Shaun's chips to the floor. Woody comes along, makes the bully eat the chips and then tells him to go in and buy Shaun some more. It was a shame that scene got cut, as I thought the Woody character was great, but I suppose it had to be trimmed becasue it wasn't integral to the story. I'm hoping it'll be on deleted scenes on the DVD.

The opening credit sequence was different too, though the new one is much better because it really sets the mood for the period in which the film is set.

Another difference I remember was the part where the gang smash the derelict house up, and the pacing was a lot slower. There was more emphasis on the gang and what they were wearing and a slo-mo shot of them walking with music over the top. Shane, was this changed in the interest of making a shorter edit? Or did you change your mind in terms of the style and set-up etc?

[Morell™]

Hi all,
Just wanted to say what a great night I had meeting most of you, cast, crew and forum members. Your all a top bunch. The after party was a good craic too. Good to have a ball with you Comp, Deadmansrockports, Ryd, Hyde Donk and Dave and more. (whos alias I cant remember without looking)

as far as the film goes I'm not one for Mark Kermode like epic rants so all just say that I was trully blown away by the film. Haven't been so stunned by the intensity of a films content since 'Nil by mouth' and havent been as emotional as I was about a Shane film ever. As a 'Brown gentleman' (As Combo says) myself this film hit home on a racsist era I norrowly missed. This in my opinion is one of the most important British films to be made for as long as I can remember. Everyone involved should be proud no matter what they go on to do. This is the Withnail and I or Trainspotting of the naughties.

If I had an award to give you'd all get one.

Line that sticks in my head after the film award would have to go to:
"do you wanna suck me tits" - Smell

cheers,

Gareth

p.s Jo Hartley you are an absolute diamond! I bloody love ya

[johartley]

Hello to the Shane Gang,

I just got back from the big smoke, and wanted to say how lovely an evening i had on Tuesday. It was good to meet all you guys who attended, even though i got some of yr character names wrong, ooops! Soz! he he.

I had the most memorable evening, the film went down well and its finished things off for me very positivly. Im proud.

The party was great fun, and it was great that some of you fella's got to sneak in. Your very welcome Gareth, after all yr one of us! Paddy is lucky to have such a great administrator for his website.

I went to the screening on wednesday, and once again cried at the end. Im not supposed to do that but it gets me everytime. My agent adored it, he laughed so much and all my friends called afterwards to say what an amazing film. I had calls today off people who said they could not get it out of their mind all nite, flashbacks. The crowd in the cinema on Wed were amazing, it was a bubbling finale.

I also was chuffed because i met the Arctic Monkey's who were fans Shane and attended the screening. They were all really nice lads, very sweet!

Off out for a curry now to share gossip with the girls, so take care everyone (shed a tear - boo hoo you little fuck you!) until the next time we all meet, heres to the BIFA's.

COME ON SHANDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! breath!!!

Cynth x x x

ps... i have to say i loved dancing with smells Mum and Dad at the party, heres to dancin wild with no shoes on, yeah baby!

[Companero]

Hey Jo (that sounds like a song..

Great to meet you on Tuesday, and I know I speak for Ryd, Gareth and co, thanks for everything. It was a surreal night to say the least. Had we just seen the film, it would have given us enough to talk about for a week but meeting the other guys from here, Shane and the cast, and then going to the party after - well, we've not got plenty to talk about for a very long time

Comp

[jill]

Hiya,

A quickish one. It was good to meet (some of) you on Tuesday. Smashing bunch of folk. And thanks to Shane and the cast for turning out-made it an even more memorable night. My impression (from the 'photo-never judge a book by the cover and all that) of Campanero was that he was a 'don't mess with me' hard man, but you're a real sweetie aren't you? :-) !

Loved the film! I identify more with the 'first wave' of skins in the early 1970s; growing up in Nottingham (Hyson Green). I still have vivid memories of the police taking the laces out of me Monkey books at the Trent End turnstiles (btw Shane, what is it with the County thing-a joke?!), but I thought the film completely nailed the emotional identity/belonging appeal of the 'gang', against the back drop of social/economic marginalisation and a deeply moving personal story about grief and loss. Fantastic comment on the Thatcher era. Great soundtrack! I think a more opportunist and less insightful film-maker might well have told a shallow/banal story about the fate of the (1980s) English working class (youth)= losers=reactionary=fascist=rascist=politically malleable, but Shane captured the personal in the political and vice-versa brilliantly. For me-at least-the film was both scary (scape-goating is so easy) and hopeful (it's hard to hate people that you know and care about). My job makes me a bit of a journeyman-sic- about this Isle and I'm struck by the way that the NF makes most headway in 'all white' communities-I lived in Stoke for a few years-O.K Stokies, you're not all 'bad' but it was particularly scary there, no?)The near to end shot into the camera was amazing. I was with my daughter-she'll hate me for posting this in a public sphere-who is a film student. On the way out she remarked 'yeah, fantastic, when I make my first film, I'll nick that'; plaigarism is the highest form of flattery.


On a personal note, I was surprised/confused by the amount of laughter in the first 20 minutes or so, Not that Shane's film aren't humourous (far from it) but the dialogue just seemed like everday conversation to me (more a chuckle than a laugh?).

Anyhoo, sorry if this post comes over as indulgent, stream of consiousness stuff, but I suppose it's no bad thing to be so moved by a film that it makes you want to go on and on about it. I can envisage my nice ( I like them) middle class chattering classes colleagues dissecting it over a skimmed milk latte and a low fat goat cheese panini come April. I hope so. Shane has something to say and tells a bloody good tale.

Love and kisses to you all.

Jill x

PS. You might have guessed, but I've just come back from the pub!

[Companero]

jill said:

Hiya,

My impression (from the 'photo-never judge a book by the cover and all that) of Campanero was that he was a 'don't mess with me' hard man, but you're a real sweetie aren't you? :-) !

Hahaha - no, I'm not a hardman, at all. Quite a sensitive soul, really!

Good to meet you the other night, Jill. Brilliant night, wasn't it? I can honestly put my hand on my heart and say that there wasn't one person I was apprehensive about - a thoroughly decent bunch of people post on this forum.

[jill]

Yeah absolutely! Ive never been one for internet chatting, but I think I've been 'turned around' on this one-lovely bunch of people, really enjoyable night! And great film!!!! love, jill x

[fattaxi]

Yeah was good meeting you all! I;ll have to post up the pictures of me with Shane and Shimmy!

[Dave]

I guess I better rabbit on a bit about the film!

So, straight off, I have to say it was great stuff.
I can't even recall the last film I saw where every actor involved was stunningly good.
Tomo was immense! He really has to go through a full range of emotion in this film, but he's so 'real' that you don't even sit there thinking about how great an actor he is, you're just watching him be Shaun (haha sounds very poncey that).
The scene where Shaun flips out at Combo was outstanding. I can't imagine that there are many child actors who could even approach what Tomo does in that scene. Credit to Stephen Graham there too of course, but Shaun really makes Combo look physically small as he vents his rage. In the hands of a lesser young actor, that scene could have looked utterly misjudged.
Tomo also has some brilliant comic timing going on!

"Fuck me... I didn't know Keith Chegwin had a son!" .... Brilliant (probably misquoted that).

Rosamund Hanson as Smell! Probably my second favourite character. I wanted to see more of the potential Shaun and Smell double-act! "..... does it rhyme?"

Loved the last scene. I couldn't get enough of Gavin Clark's cover of The Smiths "Please, please, please, let me get what I want"... I want a copy!
The 'look to camera' at the end was very striking. Like a simultaneous punctuation and moment of literal connection to this kid that is now wise beyond his years.

I loved the little bit of school stuff we saw, and I really wanted more (and I was expecting it, after having seen stills of scenes shot in a classroom).

I saw Dave (#2!) mentioned a scene in an earlier cut of Woody taking care of a bully that Shaun is confronted with outside a chippy. I kind of think that the film could have done with a scene like that, because although Woody asks about who's said stuff to Shaun at school, we never see Woody and the gang actually helping Shaun out in this area. I thought that a scene where they help out with some bullying issues would have helped solidify Shaun's relationship with the gang. As it stands, Shaun seems to be happy to join up with them on the strength of Woody's personality alone. Two or more of the rest of the lads are ripping the piss out of Shaun, which is more reason for Shaun to steer clear than hang around with them.
However, there's no denying that Woody is one hell of a jovial and infectious character, and that Shaun latches onto that makes sense. In Woody, Shaun has found someone significantly older than him who talks to him and has a laugh with him as an equal. Probably the first older male to do that since his Dad.

That's enough for the moment! Hahaha.. there'll be more to come from me, I'm pretty sure of that!